[belasin]

For those who missed out on now-closed pre-orders, does anyone have any insight into when Ford will open up the reservation system? The best information I can find by google, is sometime this summer. If that is the case, is this going to be the type of mass grab for just a few slots that will sell out in a couple of hours, or will there be enough time for the average person to find out reservations are open and have more than a day to get in the system?

Second, given that Ford wants to start producing 150k trucks per year, and total reservations are capped at 200,000, assuming that next years' production meets the current pre-orders, what is the consensus that the base priced work truck for $40k will be produced for the non-fleet masses?

 

[FM_Jack]

To make a new reservation? Sometime in 2023. Placing an order on an existing reservation will be this summer into the fall.

Farley has made comments in the last few days that makes it seem like the Lightning wasn't intended to be a main stay vehicle. They are already setting up the next EV Truck. So there will probably be a MY24 and that could be it or they could keep making the Lightning since it is so popular. Flip a coin on that one.

The base priced work truck is for sell now to non-fleet masses. You can only spec the SR. It is the ER that the masses can't get and that will probably open up in 2023 (although maybe for MY23? won't know until people that can order have the configurator open and share what they can get).

 

[joeclark38]

Okay, so here's a related question (I understand that a lot of these things are big unknowns right now, but I'm hoping that some of the more well-connected members might have some info). When the order banks do reopen, does anyone know if dealers who have sold their customer orders at/near MSRP will get some kind of higher allocation than dealers who are clearly gouging their customers? It's clear that Jim Farley isn't happy with the price gouging dealers, but I haven't heard of anything that Ford will do in the short term to punish them.

For context, the dealer I have my reservation through said they had 260ish reservations, and had an allocation of 5 for MY22. However, the salesman I spoke with said that for customer ordered vehicles, they are selling them at MSRP, which is encouraging. So I'm really hoping they get a disproportionately higher allocation for MY23 compared to price-gouging dealers, especially since I'm probably 259th in line 😅.

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

Ford has stated that 'ADM' sales will result in less allocations for the dealer, but it remains to be seen if that really is the case, or not. There's no 'real' way to ascertain that, anyway, since no one knows how many the dealer would have received in the first place, only Ford does.

For the Tax Credit, I would suspect that ANY order not yet in the system would probably fall outside of the parameters of the current credit requirement, although that is subject to change by the congress. If they can be convinced that the credit is actually luring new-to-EV buyers, then they may see the value. If they think it's just a credit to aid in 'wealthy' people getting money back on their taxes, then, no.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Farley has made comments in the last few days that makes it seem like the Lightning wasn't intended to be a main stay vehicle. They are already setting up the next EV Truck. So there will probably be a MY24 and that could be it or they could keep making the Lightning since it is so popular. Flip a coin on that one.

I think many car writers are misinterpreting Farley's quote. I don't believe he's talking about the Lightning going away. I take his quote to be talking about the next truck (probably an eRanger or ranger-class BEV truck) that will be built and sold alongside the Lightning.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Ford has stated that 'ADM' sales will result in less allocations for the dealer, but it remains to be seen if that really is the case, or not. There's no 'real' way to ascertain that, anyway, since no one knows how many the dealer would have received in the first place, only Ford does.

For the Tax Credit, I would suspect that ANY order not yet in the system would probably fall outside of the parameters of the current credit requirement, although that is subject to change by the congress. If they can be convinced that the credit is actually luring new-to-EV buyers, then they may see the value. If they think it's just a credit to aid in 'wealthy' people getting money back on their taxes, then, no.

Remember that the $7500 tax credit doesn't go away immediately. It will be phased out but a reduction to 50% ($3750) for 2 quarters then 25% ($1875) for two more.