[fyrdude]

Had been under the impression that the Ford was supposed to weigh in the 7,000 lb range? Have there been any official figures released yet. I thought that was about expected. Good if comparing to the smaller Rivian which weighs around 7,000 lbs, thus seems bloated for its size.

Found something on Cars Direct in a comparison check that indicated the Lightning only weighs around 6,200 lbs? If so, have to say, that's really impressive when you consider the weight of the smaller Rivian and heavier Hummer at over 9,000 lbs.

Was thinking Ford's frame on body EV was old school and dated from the start, but now, if they really can keep the weight that low, that's great for range, performance, braking, towing, etc.

Would explain why they also get more range than the Rivian, despite having a slightly smaller battery (131 vs 135 kWh).

Ford surprised us with more power and tow capacity ratings. The EPA surprised us with 320 miles of range instead of 300 Now find out it may be 800 lbs lighter than originally thought. I love companies that under-promise and over-deliver Ford is one of the few that does.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Had been under the impression that the Ford was supposed to weigh in the 7,000 lb range? Have there been any official figures released yet. I thought that was about expected. Good if comparing to the smaller Rivian which weighs around 7,000 lbs, thus seems bloated for its size.

Found something on Cars Direct in a comparison check that indicated the Lightning only weighs around 6,200 lbs? If so, have to say, that's really impressive when you consider the weight of the smaller Rivian and heavier Hummer at over 9,000 lbs.

Was thinking Ford's frame on body EV was old school and dated from the start, but now, if they really can keep the weight that low, that's great for range, performance, braking, towing, etc.

Would explain why they also get more range than the Rivian, despite having a slightly smaller battery (131 vs 135 kWh).

Ford surprised us with more power and tow capacity ratings. The EPA surprised us with 320 miles of range instead of 300 Now find out it may be 800 lbs lighter than originally thought. I love companies that under-promise and over-deliver Ford is one of the few that does.

per News: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Weighs Less Than You May Think - The Fast Lane Truck
who got it from the SourceBook
"The 2022 F-150 Lightning Pro with the smaller standard-range 98 kWh battery pack has a base curb weight of 6,171 lbs and a GVWR of 8,250 lbs. It also puts the base Lightning payload at just over the promised 2,000 lbs."

That will probably get adjusted a bit now that we know the payload went up by a bit.

 

[fyrdude]

So about 6,600 with the extended range battery. Still 400 lbs lighter than the Rivian, which is impressive considering how much larger the F-150 is.

I guess the lack of air suspension, an air compressor the Rivian has account for some of that. Ford's 100+ years experience in building vehicles and shaving weight probably accounts for the rest of it.

 

[THEsocalledfan]

So about 6,600 with the extended range battery. Still 400 lbs lighter than the Rivian, which is impressive considering how much larger the F-150 is.

Rivian = Toy Truck
Ford = Real Truck

Now, let's hope other EV manufacturers learn a lesson and build bigger vehicles.....not sure there is another EV my 6' 4" frame will fit in. Maybe a Lucid? (what out of my price range thought!)

 

[EFX4]

So about 6,600 with the extended range battery. Still 400 lbs lighter than the Rivian, which is impressive considering how much larger the F-150 is.

I guess the lack of air suspension, an air compressor the Rivian has account for some of that. Ford's 100+ years experience in building vehicles and shaving weight probably accounts for the rest of it.

I'll be interested in seeing where they can cut weight for the next model year, probably something that Sandy Monroe could point us for us.

 

[FM_Jack]

Rivian = Toy Truck
Ford = Real Truck

Now, let's hope other EV manufacturers learn a lesson and build bigger vehicles.....not sure there is another EV my 6' 4" frame will fit in. Maybe a Lucid? (what out of my price range thought!)

It also have 4 motors and a slightly bigger battery*.

 

[RickKeen]

I'll be interested in seeing where they can cut weight for the next model year, probably something that Sandy Monroe could point us for us.

There is a lot of somewhat heavy steel on the bottom - skid plates covering the two motors and the battery. If you are not going off-road, seems like a lot of that weight could be reduced.

 

[THEsocalledfan]

There is a lot of somewhat heavy steel on the bottom - skid plates covering the two motors and the battery. If you are not going off-road, seems like a lot of that weight could be reduced.
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Even though I don't off road much, I don't think I was skid plates removed that are covering a 131 kwh batter pack....

 

[RickKeen]

Even though I don't off road much, I don't think I was skid plates removed that are covering a 131 kwh batter pack....

I carefully chose the word "Reduced", not "Removed".
The long term answer is that the battery protection is incorporated into the structure of the vehicle, providing both protection and structure without adding so much weight. Right now, they just kind of hanging extra steel underneath which is somewhat redundant with the frame.

 

[ChasingCoral]

There is a lot of somewhat heavy steel on the bottom - skid plates covering the two motors and the battery. If you are not going off-road, seems like a lot of that weight could be reduced.
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I'll keep protection of the three most expensive parts of the truck, thank you.

 

[3rdgenfan]

I'll keep protection of the three most expensive parts of the truck, thank you.

Minor details! Little scratch and gouge here won't hurt anything.

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