[ChasingCoral]

I finally received the PowerUp on my Lightning that enabled Phone as a Key. However, I've found that I have to have the right vehicle selected on the FordPass app to reliably use PaaK in the vehicles. In other words, I have to select the Lightning for PaaK to work reliably on the Lightning and have to select the Mach E for it to work on the Mach E.

Are others encountering the same?

 

[Louie]

Yes, I have to change cars. I even have to unlock the door for the car/truck to recognize my phone.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I’m checking in with someone at Ford but haven’t heard back.

So far, it seems the only option is to switch to the correct vehicle in the Ford Pass app. FP only seems to be able to simulate one fob at a time.

I also encourage you to switch a minute before you reach the vehicle. I suspect the PaaK feature in FP has to communicate with the mothership to download the current series of security keys. If you switch just in time to open the door, you may not have the security key in time to start the vehicle.

 

[terik2005]

i have the lincoln app and the ford app cannot be open at the same time because the app that was opened first or is in range first will take priority. over time i noticed that if it says under the buttons for windows and frunk smaller buttons bluetooth is connected then then only that vehicle is connected. unlocking with the code on the doorsill is usually the fastest way to get in if your in a rush.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I have the straight scoop from Ford. The Ford Pass app can only act as PaaK for one vehicle at a time. You can only switch between vehicles in FordPass in the "Home" screen. It takes several seconds to pass the door open "key" and can take a few minutes to pass the vehicle start "key".

I've found that this is normally not an issue but can be a pain when you are doing things like moving vehicles around in the driveway, i.e., operating both vehicles at almost the same time.

 

[Brew]

That's really unfortunate to hear. I hope they resolve this issue or they're going to have difficulty creating "Ford households."

 

[ChasingCoral]

That's really unfortunate to hear. I hope they resolve this issue or they're going to have difficulty creating "Ford households."

Actually, I can understand why one should only be active at a time. It would be better if the switching were faster, however.

 

[Brew]

Actually, I can understand why one should only be active at a time.

I can't think of a reason this would be beneficial to users. Seems like it is a technical limitation more than a design choice.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I can't think of a reason this would be beneficial to users. Seems like it is a technical limitation more than a design choice.

Biggest reason is security. It only unlocks/controls one vehicle at a time, so you don't activate multiple vehicles when you walk up. Besides, how many should it control at the same time? 2? 4? 10? Each vehicle has its own set of continually updating security codes. How much battery do you allocate to monitoring codes for multiple vehicles? That's going to impact phone performance and users may become unhappy.

PaaK used to stay active continuously on Android phones. PaaK was highly responsive but their batteries were draining in half a day. These decisions have consequences that impact users.

 

[Brew]

Well, maybe I need to be more precise with my language but, to be honest, I'm not used to admins trolling members in discussions.

At least on the Lightning the PAAK does not lock/unlock vehicles from simply walking around it so that security concern isn't relevant or accurate.

You have two vehicles and it seems a reasonable would be to have your PAAK control both vehicles without having to go through a menu system. At that point, the PAAK is not particularly valuable because you'd be able to access the vehicle faster with a FOB. I don't know why you would use ten vehicles as anything other than an example of absurdity; regardless, if one did have 10 Fords one should have the choice of draining their phone battery in order to not have to delve into menu subsystems simply to unlock their vehicles.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Well, maybe I need to be more precise with my language but, to be honest, I'm not used to admins trolling members in discussions.

Sorry you took it as trolling. I'm simply responding as a Lightning and Mach E owner and an active member of this Forum.

 

[Brew]

You "simply" responded with absurdities, which is why I noted it as trolling.

You have two vehicles not four or ten and none of them continuously lock/unlock when you simply walk past them.

 

[ChasingCoral]

You "simply" responded with absurdities, which is why I noted it as trolling.

You have two vehicles not four or ten and none of them continuously lock/unlock when you simply walk past them.

No, only one of the two activates and is unlockable at a time. That is because the PaaK only works for one vehicle at a time.