⚡ Ford Lightning Forum ⚡ banner
1 - 13 of 13 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
65 Posts
Summary if you don't want to watch: Electric was just a bit cheaper towing, but much more enjoyable from the driver's seat. Range can be an issue and finding a place to plug in with the trailer attached. Towing their box trailer at 7500 pounds with the power boost was just under 8mpg and the Rivian was about 0.83 miles per kWh reported by the truck netting a full range of about 100 miles.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
288 Posts
Great baseline test, I hope to do better with the Lightning pulling a smaller V-nose 7x14 and only ~4000 load!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
169 Posts
Watched a Rivian beat a Raptor while towing 6,000 lbs on YouTube. EVs are better at towing. I can think of some circumstances where it would be better to tow with a Lightning than my diesel. Now I just have to figure out whether or not I can put a gooseneck on the Lightning.
 

·
Administrator
2021 Mustang Mach E First Edition, 2016 Nissan Leaf, 2003 Toyota Tacoma, F-150 Lightning reserved
Joined
·
1,400 Posts
Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Summary if you don't want to watch: Electric was just a bit cheaper towing, but much more enjoyable from the driver's seat. Range can be an issue and finding a place to plug in with the trailer attached. Towing their box trailer at 7500 pounds with the power boost was just under 8mpg and the Rivian was about 0.83 miles per kWh reported by the truck netting a full range of about 100 miles.
Correction -- electric was only a bit cheaper when paying to DCFC. Charging at home is much cheaper (1/4-1/3 the cost of DCFC).
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
288 Posts
Correction -- electric was only a bit cheaper when paying to DCFC. Charging at home is much cheaper (1/4-1/3 the cost of DCFC).
True, I will need to do one or two DCFC sessions on my intended run, but will try keep that to a minimum such that I arrive home at the end of the day/weekend trip with ~15-20% left for home charging which will be at the rate of 24.79c/KWH
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
65 Posts
We will only need to DC charge on trips. Charging at home at 15c/kWh if charging 9pm to 1pm or 19c/kWh the rest of the time as long as I use our 30amp evse (special rate with our utility). It will be 19c all the time if using the ford charge station pro. Though these prices may not matter as we have net metered solar being installed this summer. We sell to the grid for 1c less than we pay but our credits expire after one year. Hopefully we match our solar array size to our usage, particularly because our us as fe be will be increasing this year (Volvo xc40 EV replacing a Chevy bolt at 65 to 75 percent as efficient and lightning replacing a Tacoma).
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
314 Posts
Summary if you don't want to watch: Electric was just a bit cheaper towing, but much more enjoyable from the driver's seat. Range can be an issue and finding a place to plug in with the trailer attached. Towing their box trailer at 7500 pounds with the power boost was just under 8mpg and the Rivian was about 0.83 miles per kWh reported by the truck netting a full range of about 100 miles.
MSRP of the Rivian should also be factored in, it's an expensive electric pickup and that alone will push most folks to something more traditional. Thankfully the base Lightning starts from $41k and the one next up around $54k.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
Serious question, what's the efficiency like when you tow the weight of a battery combined with the trailer load?

Let's say you build a flatbed trailer that has an integrated battery. Assuming a Model 3 Standard Range Plus battery weight and capacity as a standard, if you could get 55 kwh but add 700 lbs to the trailer, would that offset the range loss by a net gain?

I'm thinking of an EV version of those Anker travel batteries. You plug it into your truck and the truck draws power from the battery first. Of course, given the 100 mile range with an alleged 170 kwh battery, this would mean an extra 55 kwh might only net you 33 miles?

I think it's something worth exploring. Bosch is supposedly building a high capacity EV battery with 50 kwh that only weighs 418 pounds.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
458 Posts
We will only need to DC charge on trips.
That's the point of the video though. From this forum, it seems like everyone is interested in taking a trip and towing/hauling something. So DC charging is it. Charging at home is a moot point and Kyle only put it in to cover all bases. Even in the case for where I am, if I towed a boat to the water and back, I would have to DC fast charge.
 

·
Administrator
2021 Mustang Mach E First Edition, 2016 Nissan Leaf, 2003 Toyota Tacoma, F-150 Lightning reserved
Joined
·
1,400 Posts
Discussion Starter · #12 ·
That's the point of the video though. From this forum, it seems like everyone is interested in taking a trip and towing/hauling something. So DC charging is it. Charging at home is a moot point and Kyle only put it in to cover all bases. Even in the case for where I am, if I towed a boat to the water and back, I would have to DC fast charge.
However, your first charge should a 100% charge on your home system before departure.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
458 Posts
However, your first charge should a 100% charge on your home system before departure.
I was going to add, unless they start adding chargers down by the water. Then 240 is enough for time spent.
 
1 - 13 of 13 Posts
Top