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I’ve only watched part of the video but Kyle said at the beginning of the video that the truck basically stays at 150 KW from 0-50% and then drops slightly to 120 KW from 51% to 80% which is much different from the Mach-E and I think helps to confirm FORDs estimated 41 min from 15% to 80% DCFC.
 

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I’ve only watched part of the video but Kyle said at the beginning of the video that the truck basically stays at 150 KW from 0-50% and then drops slightly to 120 KW from 51% to 80% which is much different from the Mach-E and I think helps to confirm FORDs estimated 41 min from 15% to 80% DCFC.
Yea he gets into it at the very end at an EA station. If you watch his Rivian curve one it is a good side by side cause Ford's system is kicking the fans and cooling on much sooner and Kyle is definitely saying Max Tow is the way to go.
 

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Seems to be what Kyle saw on his first drive
 

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Here's the video I mentioned earlier today

 

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and the all-important slide:
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Note that Tom states in the video that Ford's data were plotted against time, not SOC. He converted to SOC. We'll see how close real-life charging curves come to this.

It's probably pretty close, though. Here's what his quick charging test yielded relative to the theoretical curve:
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Charging curve may even be better than this based on what Kyle Connor shows in his first ride video.

Kyle peaked at 172kW, leveled off at 160kW to 60% SOC, 140 tapering down to 120kW from 60-80% SOC, then dropping to 60kW from 80-?% SOC.
https://youtu.be/x0RAzP3Qfx4
 

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Charging curve may even be better than this based on what Kyle Connor shows in his first ride video.

Kyle peaked at 172kW, leveled off at 160kW to 60% SOC, 140 tapering down to 120kW from 60-80% SOC, then dropping to 60kW from 80-?% SOC.
https://youtu.be/x0RAzP3Qfx4
Also don't forget FORD can do OTA updates that make the curve even better, especially as the truck gets out to consumers and they can track battery health over thousands of miles and conditions. Wouldn't surprise me if at some point the charging curve was closer to 35 minutes from 15-80%, at least on the ER with Max tow because that extra cooling and battery size can allow the charge rate to stay high and not negatively affect the battery.
 

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Also don't forget FORD can do OTA updates that make the curve even better, especially as the truck gets out to consumers and they can track battery health over thousands of miles and conditions. Wouldn't surprise me if at some point the charging curve was closer to 35 minutes from 15-80%, at least on the ER with Max tow because that extra cooling and battery size can allow the charge rate to stay high and not negatively affect the battery.
Maybe. So far, the Mustang Mach E PowerUps have improved charging above 80% and made it similar to what is seen in the Lightning. Ford hasn't increased the main part of the charging yet.
 
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