[hiimisaac]

I'm really not able to get a clear answer to this. I've been looking around on the internet and there's 100 different answers, so I'm hoping to get info from people who might have their finger on the pulse a bit better.

When the new order bank opens up (whenever that's going to be; let's assume July just for all intents-and-purposes), those are going to be for the MY23 Lightning, is that correct?

And after it opens up, you have a spot in line to then later lock in your build. Is that correct?

But, you're buying the MY23, so does that guarantee that you're going to have a car delivered by 12/31/2023?

I've seen some people say as far out as 3 year waits? Hoping someone can just shed the light on this for me.

Sorry for the ignorance, just getting into the world of the lightning. I currently have an R1T order.

 

[GDN]

You have no guarantees until you are invited to order. Once you place your order you are still just a spec floating in Ford's IT systems. One day they will then start to schedule you. Once you are scheduled you could still move around some, but they should be pretty close on your build date.

However, if you are invited to order a 2023, you will 99% chance be delivered a 2023 before the end of 2023.

This is fluid, this is a new truck. They've already has multiple chip issues and this truck was supposed to be super protected.

If you get a real order invite, you will get that year model truck.

 

[hiimisaac]

You have no guarantees until you are invited to order. Once you place your order you are still just a spec floating in Ford's IT systems. One day they will then start to schedule you. Once you are scheduled you could still move around some, but they should be pretty close on your build date.

However, if you are invited to order a 2023, you will 99% chance be delivered a 2023 before the end of 2023.

This is fluid, this is a new truck. They've already has multiple chip issues and this truck was supposed to be super protected.

If you get a real order invite, you will get that year model truck.

Okay, so when the order banks open that's not for a specific model year. That's entirely for a spot in line to at some point lock in a configuration. For better or for worse, correct?

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

2023 model year spans thru two years, typically late 2022 and well into 2023... MY 2022, on the other hand, like the original 1964 "1/2" Ford Mustang, when it was first introduced, will run from April 2022 into sometime like September or October of this year, before 2023 models are officially started. Delivery, though, is subject to more time, depending on how backed up the trucking logistics are, etc.

 

[GDN]

Okay, so when the order banks open that's not for a specific model year. That's entirely for a spot in line to at some point lock in a configuration. For better or for worse, correct?

When the next order banks open it should be for MY 2023.

 

[Obi66]

Okay, so when the order banks open that's not for a specific model year. That's entirely for a spot in line to at some point lock in a configuration. For better or for worse, correct?

What Leaf to Lightning said is true, but if you get an invitation to order this summer, it will be for 2023 model year only. You might get delivery late 2022 or in 2023.

 

[Voltz]

That's entirely for a spot in line to at some point lock in a configuration.

Do you currently have a reservation? If so, what day did you make it?

If not, a reservation functions similarly to your sentence that I quoted above-a spot in the line to order. There are a lot of people who have reservations in line ahead of you, maybe enough to fulfil 2023 production capacity. The next step expected is that current reservation holders will be asked to convert their reservation to an order for Model Year 2023. The economy may see that the list of reservation holders who do not convert to orders will grow and the backlog diminish. Everything is speculation.

 

[Ford Thunder]

Do you currently have a reservation? If so, what day did you make it?

If not, a reservation functions similarly to your sentence that I quoted above-a spot in the line to order. There are a lot of people who have reservations in line ahead of you, maybe enough to fulfil 2023 production capacity. The next step expected is that current reservation holders will be asked to convert their reservation to an order for Model Year 2023. The economy may see that the list of reservation holders who do not convert to orders will grow and the backlog diminish. Everything is speculation.

Unfortunately, unlike Tesla, Ford appears to not doing a order-manufacture-delivery sequence based on reservation dates.

Some dealers will get 2 to 5 units and their sales department will call customers with reservations, telling them they have a Lariat.. And even if your plan is for XLT, you will be shoehorned into get-it-or-lose-it Lariat.

There are dealers who will outright tell you that they won't be getting an allocation in 2022 and not sure if they'll have a demo unit too. And they will admit, they have customers who have made the reservations very early.

Good luck as Ford corporate, they won't respond, nor the dealer, they are themselves confused and have no idea.

 

[hiimisaac]

Unfortunately, unlike Tesla, Ford appears to not doing a order-manufacture-delivery sequence based on reservation dates.

Some dealers will get 2 to 5 units and their sales department will call customers with reservations, telling them they have a Lariat.. And even if your plan is for XLT, you will be shoehorned into get-it-or-lose-it Lariat.

There are dealers who will outright tell you that they won't be getting an allocation in 2022 and not sure if they'll have a demo unit too. And they will admit, they have customers who have made the reservations very early.

Good luck as Ford corporate, they won't respond, nor the dealer, they are themselves confused and have no idea.

So, what your saying is your order doesn't matter? I'm confused here.

 

[hiimisaac]

Do you currently have a reservation? If so, what day did you make it?

If not, a reservation functions similarly to your sentence that I quoted above-a spot in the line to order. There are a lot of people who have reservations in line ahead of you, maybe enough to fulfil 2023 production capacity. The next step expected is that current reservation holders will be asked to convert their reservation to an order for Model Year 2023. The economy may see that the list of reservation holders who do not convert to orders will grow and the backlog diminish. Everything is speculation.

I don't. I'm hoping to get into the next order bank opening.

 

[Ford Thunder]

So, what your saying is your order doesn't matter? I'm confused here.

I'm saying, Ford is not prioritizing order and manufacture based on date sequence of reservations.

At least for now, some gets a call from their reservation list of units and model available, not specifically on the configuration your ordered and it's on a take-it-or-leave it basis. Dealers are basically or simply selling what they got.

I still think that if you decline to take the available units, Ford will still manufacture what you actually order based on the model and configurations you specified.

 

[Voltz]

Unfortunately, unlike Tesla, Ford appears to not doing a order-manufacture-delivery sequence based on reservation dates.

What day did you make your reservation?

The 2022s are all sold out. The calls are going out to reservation holders offering certain trims (not XLT or Pro) to balance out the end of MY22 production. You can either take what they have sequenced to build, or stay in line with the other reservation holders for MY23. If all you have is a reservation, you don't have an order.

 

[ChasingCoral]

However, if you are invited to order a 2023, you will 99% chance be delivered a 2023 before the end of 2023.

And even better chances if you are invited early in the year.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I don't. I'm hoping to get into the next order bank opening.

Reservations were closed at 200,000 late in 2021. Orders are pretty much closed for MY 2022 trucks except for a few leftovers been handed out. Most people who got to order made reservations the first DAY reservations opened in May of 2021. This summer the order banks will open up again for MY 2023 trucks. This will be by invitation only and to people with existing reservations. Only after Ford offers folks with existing reservations their opportunities to order are they likely to open up to folks who don't have a reservation.

 

[Ford Thunder]

And even better chances if you are invited early in the year.

It appears that's Ford is doing it, by "invitation". But you won't graduate into order if you don't have a reservation, not necessary the first reservists. And the dealer may call you if you are interested on a unit, mostly Lariat, even if your built is for an XLT. Ford is doing a "push", or an experiment or front-loading the more profitable mid-market line. Brilliant? If there is no customer backlash with this current economy and the double jeopardy hit of high interest rates.

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

we're in a confusing and never-before situation where there is run-away inflation, including HUGE and record fuel prices, and yet we have a employment problem, commodity issues, and vehicles in demand are in short supply, if you could call it a 'supply' at all - there is such a small TRICKLE of these new EVs coming into the market, yet there is advertising galore, and pent-up demand - at the same time I believe we have much more money to spend than might be first thought. Watching the lake today, the number of boats with children behind in inflatable 'toys' certainly doesn't look like a 'depression' or 'inflationary problem'... as might be suggested in the financial news today, with an increase in base rates that will certainly trickle-up to Auto loans and Mortgages, and Toys.
Having 'free money' from the government during 'covid' and me even getting $500 from the State of Georgia, as a 'tax overage refund' for all residents, is not really creating a slow-down of buying from the public. People have money to spend.

 

[Avalanche 3.0]

Has Ford clarified how MY 23 ordering will be rolled out? Will it be waves like MY 22? Timestamp strictly? Dealer Prioritization? ZeV state prioritization? Trim quotas like MY 22? @Ford Motor Company lurks here sometimes, maybe they will add some clarity, but probably not.