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This is just the 110v wall charger. I use it to slow charge when I go away for work. Recently I was away at work and I got this same message whenI checked the app.(smack in the middle of ca heat wave) I went to a public fast charger when I got home and charged maybe another 30 percent. Then later at home I plugged into the 110 and it worked fine (this was now off peak hours now that I think about it) and just now, I plugged in and got this error (coming into peak)
I have no set charge times, limits etc
 

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Anyone getting this error? I’m in ca btw, I’m assuming ford is doing this because we don’t have a power grid to support electric vehicles.
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Um... no, Ford nor California have control over your charging at home (yet.... that is coming for sure). This is user error. You do not have the vehicle set to "charge immediately" at that location.
 

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Um... no, Ford nor California have control over your charging at home (yet.... that is coming for sure). This is user error. You do not have the vehicle set to "charge immediately" at that location.
nope. Like I said, the last time it happened, no matter what I did it wouldn’t charge until I brought it to a public charger. Then when I plugged in (off peak) it started charging right away. Now when I plugged in (on peak) I get this error. Been over the settings and nothing has changed. Mind you I’ve had this truck since June. I have never had any issues until this ca flex alert went into effect.
 

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I been charging with the supplied 30 amp charger at 240 volts with no issues, works great and charges fast enough for most my use so far 200 km max a day so far and charges no problem by morning 100 percent
 

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I have never had any issues until this ca flex alert went into effect.
I worked in the industry for 40 years and I can assure you the power company is not restricting your 120V charging. In the old days we would lower voltage, called a brown out, to lower power consumption. A brown out only worked because there were so many incandescent light bulbs in use and they would consume less power at a lower voltage. The lights would be dimmer but no one ever noticed. Today everything is electronic and lowering the voltage saves very little power and may cause damage to the grid infrastructure and all other electronic equipment. Because of the greater risks and minimal savings brownouts are no longer "intentionally" used and you now hear of rolling blackouts.

The power company does have the capability to communicate to every, (smart), power meter in the system. The time is coming when each house can/will be controlled, but that time is not here yet. The time is also coming when you will be able to sell power from your car battery directly into the grid to support voltage and frequency. This is currently being tested by some power companies and Tesla has gone one step further and is developing a virtual generator that consists of thousands of batteries tied together acting as one to support the power grid.

With all that said, it is possible you have a local neighborhood low voltage situation during peak demand but, that is caused by high demand and a week distribution infrastructure not a conscious effort on the power company to limit EV charging. If you can verify low voltages I would report the issue. You may simply need a capacitor bank installed in your neighborhood... sorry, I got carried away......
 

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Anyone getting this error? I’m in ca btw, I’m assuming ford is doing this because we don’t have a power grid to support electric vehicles.
I sincerely doubt Ford is monitoring your electric grid.
 
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I worked in the industry for 40 years and I can assure you the power company is not restricting your 120V charging. In the old days we would lower voltage, called a brown out, to lower power consumption. A brown out only worked because there were so many incandescent light bulbs in use and they would consume less power at a lower voltage. The lights would be dimmer but no one ever noticed. Today everything is electronic and lowering the voltage saves very little power and may cause damage to the grid infrastructure and all other electronic equipment. Because of the greater risks and minimal savings brownouts are no longer "intentionally" used and you now hear of rolling blackouts.

The power company does have the capability to communicate to every, (smart), power meter in the system. The time is coming when each house can/will be controlled, but that time is not here yet. The time is also coming when you will be able to sell power from your car battery directly into the grid to support voltage and frequency. This is currently being tested by some power companies and Tesla has gone one step further and is developing a virtual generator that consists of thousands of batteries tied together acting as one to support the power grid.

With all that said, it is possible you have a local neighborhood low voltage situation during peak demand but, that is caused by high demand and a week distribution infrastructure not a conscious effort on the power company to limit EV charging. If you can verify low voltages I would report the issue. You may simply need a capacitor bank installed in your neighborhood... sorry, I got carried away......
Thank you. Good info from an insider. (y)
 

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I worked in the industry for 40 years and I can assure you the power company is not restricting your 120V charging. In the old days we would lower voltage, called a brown out, to lower power consumption. A brown out only worked because there were so many incandescent light bulbs in use and they would consume less power at a lower voltage. The lights would be dimmer but no one ever noticed. Today everything is electronic and lowering the voltage saves very little power and may cause damage to the grid infrastructure and all other electronic equipment. Because of the greater risks and minimal savings brownouts are no longer "intentionally" used and you now hear of rolling blackouts.

The power company does have the capability to communicate to every, (smart), power meter in the system. The time is coming when each house can/will be controlled, but that time is not here yet. The time is also coming when you will be able to sell power from your car battery directly into the grid to support voltage and frequency. This is currently being tested by some power companies and Tesla has gone one step further and is developing a virtual generator that consists of thousands of batteries tied together acting as one to support the power grid.

With all that said, it is possible you have a local neighborhood low voltage situation during peak demand but, that is caused by high demand and a week distribution infrastructure not a conscious effort on the power company to limit EV charging. If you can verify low voltages I would report the issue. You may simply need a capacitor bank installed in your neighborhood... sorry, I got carried away......
In Southern California and Colorado people with smart thermostats were locked out of adjusting during the latest heat wave, so yes this happens with “smart” devices.
The power company has no idea what I have plugged in, however Ford knows exactly where and when my lightning is plugged in…
I’m just trying to put the pieces together.
1- I have had the truck since June and never had any issues
2- when the heat wave hit, midway through charging (it takes like something like 5 days to go from 0-100) I get the error that charging has stopped and only can be resumed at a charging station
3-after I “resume” charging at a station, I return home around 11pm and the home charger works perfect as before
4- try to charge a few days later (still heat wave) at the start of peak and it faults again. Note: when I get this error, the light on the charger turns amber

maybe it is an issue developing with my charger? low voltage, or something else. Idk, I’ll continue to monitor and will post back.
 

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In Southern California and Colorado people with smart thermostats were locked out of adjusting during the latest heat wave, so yes this happens with “smart” devices.
The power company has no idea what I have plugged in, however Ford knows exactly where and when my lightning is plugged in…
I’m just trying to put the pieces together.
1- I have had the truck since June and never had any issues
2- when the heat wave hit, midway through charging (it takes like something like 5 days to go from 0-100) I get the error that charging has stopped and only can be resumed at a charging station
3-after I “resume” charging at a station, I return home around 11pm and the home charger works perfect as before
4- try to charge a few days later (still heat wave) at the start of peak and it faults again. Note: when I get this error, the light on the charger turns amber

maybe it is an issue developing with my charger? low voltage, or something else. Idk, I’ll continue to monitor and will post back.
What is the temperature of wherever your charger is located? Many chargers are temperature sensitive and can shut down due to overheating.
 

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not sure about the first time (but maybe 80?), but the second was immediately after plugging in, so temp was not an issue
It sounds like you either have a faulty charger or an electrical problem at the outlet or on the circuit.
 

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How can I take advantage of a tesla home charger for my truck? is that possible? I want to charge off clients tesla chargers when working at their home
Sure. You just need a Tesla Tap. See the discussion here:
 

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Ok latest update….got home yesterday and made sure the 110 plug was inserted all the way in the charger. It appeared it was. However I plugged in, and it worked! It was 11pm just to note. I am going to try tomorrow around 11 am to see if all is good (during peak hours)
1 thing, maybe others have posted about this, but the first day I had a problem and went to a public charger (electrify America) and the charging session was free. And the following 3 charges I have done there have been free as well including todays… I have no credits on my Ford pass btw
 

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Ok latest update….got home yesterday and made sure the 110 plug was inserted all the way in the charger. It appeared it was.
I forgot to mention when you started this thread. I was using the 240v charger pigtail and I had a few issues due to the 240v pigtail being loose. Sounds as if you may have found the same issue with the 120v pigtail.
 
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