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Do you know if the XLT Premium comes with Power folding mirrors ?
They discussed this during the last livestream: Power folding mirrors on Lariat and Platinum only.

We also don't know if there will really be an XLT Premium package. That was part of the unofficial survey and we won't know until the build and price tool comes out if really exists.
 
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Thanks for posting this @ChasingCoral.
Looking forward to the onboard scale and fold down shifter even more now after her explanation. The Lightning will be a part time work truck for me
I have to say, I see the fold down shifter to be an unnecessary gimmick. Yes, I like the fold open workspace. However, they could have gone with a dial shifter like the Mustang Mach E (and new Mustang Coupes) have and eliminated the need for all of that.
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I have to say, I see the fold down shifter to be an unnecessary gimmick. Yes, I like the fold open workspace. However, they could have gone with a dial shifter like the Mustang Mach E (and new Mustang Coupes) have and eliminated the need for all of that.
It seems that a lot of people doing car reviews prefers traditional shifters. To me it seems like a waste of space. Even in the ICE version, there is no direct connection between the shifter and the transmission. In an EV, it makes even less sense.

P - with one pedal driving, the car is already in park when the accelerator is not pressed. When the car is off, it stays in park. In my current EV, I don’t have to put it in park, I just turn off the car.
N - EVs don’t really have a neutral. The motor is always connected to the wheel. Some EVs can be flat towed, but a flat tow mode could be activated in the menu.

That leaves D and R. Other than when parallel parking, I rarely switch between D and R. A simple D / R switch would be fine for that. It could be next to the tow backup dial.
 

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My guess is that the shifter is 1) a way for them to convince traditional truck buyers that an electric F-150 isn't new and scary and it's the same truck they love and 2) a way to keep costs low without changing much inside. I know it doesn't make sense to have a shifter like this in an EV but it's not a dealbreaker or anything for me.
 

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I have to say, I see the fold down shifter to be an unnecessary gimmick. Yes, I like the fold open workspace. However, they could have gone with a dial shifter like the Mustang Mach E (and new Mustang Coupes) have and eliminated the need for all of that.
Agreed, I think the fold down shifter is stupid and there were many other ways they could have accomplished this without something else that can potentially break.
 

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It's a way to save a few bucks on each truck vs doing all new tooling for a center console/filler to place the dial in. Gimmicky, sure...but there is a reason this truck is going to start at 40k even if they have the part available on another model.
 

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It's a way to save a few bucks on each truck vs doing all new tooling for a center console/filler to place the dial in. Gimmicky, sure...but there is a reason this truck is going to start at 40k even if they have the part available on another model.
They shouldn't have done it in the first place on the ICE F-150. Problem solved.
 
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