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My thanks to Mike Levine, Head of Communications for Ford NA, Herschel Wourman, the manager for the Ford display, and Sarah, a Lightning Product Specialist for this opportunity.

The Lightning was up on the off-limits pedestal. Thanks to Mike I was able to get up there and have Sarah show me around the Lightning inside and out. (If you go to the show and ask really nicely to get up there to see it, they will still say no.)

My Q&A is at Questions for Product Specialists at the DC Auto Show?

My apologies for the bad colors. Ford's display of it's star vehicle uses dramatic blue LED lighting that completely distorts colors. I shot many of them in RAW and tried to color correct but it was hopeless. All of these are uncorrected.

So, here are exterior shots. The color of this Lariat is Carbonized Gray -- yes, really. It was the only Lightning there.

Tire Wheel Car Vehicle Automotive tire
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Grille Vehicle Blue Automotive lighting Hood

Tire Car Vehicle Grille Blue

Tire Wheel Vehicle Car Hood
Vehicle Hood Automotive lighting Car Tire
Automotive tail & brake light Hood Automotive design Blue Automotive lighting
Wheel Tire Vehicle Car Hood
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Now for some exterior features
Charging port (open)
Tire Wheel Vehicle Car Automotive lighting

Fake charging port on right side
Tire Wheel Vehicle Car Blue


Front cooling vents (open)
Grille Blue Automotive lighting Hood Automotive design


Front logo with camera and camera washer (closed)
Blue Automotive lighting Hood Automotive tire Water


Bed with spray liner and rear step
Wheel Vehicle Car Blue Automotive lighting

Blue Automotive design Automotive lighting Hood Vehicle

9.6kW Pro Power Onboard bed outlets
Blue Gas Electric blue Machine Electrical supply

Blue Gas Engineering Electric blue Machine

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Thank you for getting access and sharing the information.
 
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Now a peak at the underneath
Tire Wheel Vehicle Automotive tire Blue
Tire Wheel Vehicle Car Automotive tire
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The tires and wheels

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Mirror lights and cameras
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The Mega Power Frunk
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Automotive lighting Blue Hood Automotive design Vehicle
Blue Purple Azure Rectangle Wood

Land vehicle Vehicle Car Blue Light



Motor vehicle Hood Automotive design Automotive exterior Trunk
Automotive lighting Blue Hood Motor vehicle Tire
Blue Gas Gadget Caller id Electric blue
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Interior - back seat area

Automotive lighting Blue Motor vehicle Vehicle Car
Automotive lighting Blue Motor vehicle Vehicle Car

Blue Vehicle Car Motor vehicle Automotive lighting

Vehicle Blue Motor vehicle Automotive design Car
Land vehicle Car Vehicle Blue Motor vehicle
Car Vehicle Plant Steering wheel Steering part

Vehicle Motor vehicle Vehicle door Car Automotive exterior

Vehicle Blue Automotive lighting Car Hood
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Interior - front seat area
Car Vehicle Blue Motor vehicle Automotive design

Blue Light Automotive lighting Automotive design Motor vehicle
Blue Vehicle Hood Car Automotive lighting

Blue Automotive lighting Vehicle Motor vehicle Purple

Vehicle Automotive lighting Blue Motor vehicle Car
Blue Automotive lighting Vehicle Gas Automotive exterior
Automotive lighting Blue Automotive design Vehicle Automotive exterior
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Interior - driver's side
Blue Communication Device Gadget Plant Telephony
Blue Vehicle Motor vehicle Light Plant

Car Vehicle Blue Motor vehicle Window

Plant Vehicle Blue Car Steering part



Blue Motor vehicle Automotive design Fixture Vehicle door
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Computer Communication Device Personal computer Mobile device Audio equipment
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Thanks for the picture of the L14-30 receptacle. That 7.2kW is all the Intelligent* backup power I would need for the critical load panel in my house, including 240V well pump. I will very happily retire my generator and simply use Lightning.


* - Intelligent because there's no reason to get carried away when I already have all I need
 

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Font Cable Rectangle Event Machine

Light Microphone Output device Audio equipment Gadget

Light Font Audio equipment Output device Gadget


here's some of those ADAPTERS to make good use of that extra 7.2Kw 240v power coming from the LIGHTNING... for your other 20amp 120v outlet needs, or for your RV camper or fifthwheel, etc.... OR, for powering your home, whether via extension cords, or a 240v 30amp connection to your power panel....... Fantastic.
 

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here's some of those ADAPTERS to make good use of that extra 7.2Kw 240v power coming from the LIGHTNING... for your other 20amp 120v outlet needs, or for your RV camper or fifthwheel, etc.... OR, for powering your home, whether via extension cords, or a 240v 30amp connection to your power panel....... Fantastic.
Agreed. However, be careful not to overload the circuit.

The Lightning appears to come with a NEMA L14-30R 30A locking receptacle, implying a 30A limit to the circuit (we won't know for sure until someone can check out the circuitry, specifications, or wiring diagram for the Lightning).

Your top two adapters look like a NEMA 5-20R and a TT-30R (RV) receptacle. At 20A and 30A, respectively, those would be within the load limits.

The bottom adapter you shared looks like a NEMA 14-50. That would allow the use of up to 50A devices that may exceed the load rating of the outlet.

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7.4kw is exactly 30amp at 240v, yes.

anytime anyone uses an 'adapter', the owner has to be aware of the amperage they are asking the unit to provide - but it's also reasonable to assume that the truck's 30amp 240v outlet has it's own internal breaker to manage overusage - you can see that same outcome on videos describing this same usage from the Ford F150 HYBRIB, which has the same 30amp 240v outlet - the video shows that asking for 'too much' amperage causes the truck to simply 'time out' and shut down it's output - until the owner goes back into the truck and 'resets' the power output. Simple.
Also, the two 'dual' 20amp 120v outlet adapter would be 40amps at 120 volts, not 40amps at 240 volts. Easy. The adapter is already designed to pull power from each 'side' of the 240v power, so only 20amps per 'side'.
 

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Also, the two 'dual' 20amp 120v outlet adapter would be 40amps at 120 volts, not 40amps at 240 volts. Easy. The adapter is already designed to pull power from each 'side' of the 240v power, so only 20amps per 'side'.
Right, my mistake. I overlooked that those were 120V. Those would be fine. I fixed my earlier post.
 

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Agree that would be on the owner to be aware of amps not matching up with the circuit, but having some of these can be invaluable. As a Tesla owner too, I like the one for the 14-50 for helping out a fellow owner, or even a MachE or other car that uses a 14-50 receptacle. The good new is that Tesla continues to modify their phone app, you can adjust the amperage down before starting the charging session. You can also do that from the car.

Bigger question here I'm not sure I've seen - what is the "breaker" reset for these should you overload a circuit? Does the truck have a breaker or a fuse?

Tesla's have neither. There is nothing accessible by human if you overload or have a problem with a circuit. They use mosfet's on the circuit boards. Several good Youtube video's that can describe more about them better than I can. The mosfets automatically reset after time.
 

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Bigger question here I'm not sure I've seen - what is the "breaker" reset for these should you overload a circuit? Does the truck have a breaker or a fuse?
They almost certainly have to all be GFCI protected by Code. I'm not sure what form it would take.
 
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They almost certainly have to all be GFCI protected by Code. I'm not sure what form it would take.
I was told at the DC Auto Show this week that they are GCFI protected.
 
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GFCI would be mandatory as they are outside exposed to moisture - it's built into the outlet, and the 'reset' buttons are what you see above them. Now, that does NOT apply to the 240v 30amp outlet, as 240v outlets do not have the same mandate, and generally are not GFCI compatible. This is the same for campground pedestal outlets, whether 30amp 120v or 50amp 240v - neither are GFCI.
 
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