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Hi Folks,

At the last software update, related to range - my range drastically dropped.
I figured it was just a winter thing so ignored it.

Then yesterday, I applied the 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE update (Received Jan 08) and after a full 100% charge my range went to 515 km!!!

I checked again and now it's reporting 505km.

I'm using the Ford Charger Pro.

Has anyone else seen an over-reporting charge?

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try resetting your driving history. The range is simply a calculation and a guide. Percentage of battery should be your guide. The range didn’t drop, it might be using more accurate factors for range based on your driving history.
 

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This one has taken forever to install for some, even my own took a couple of weeks and I tried many times.

To say the least it seems many complained that the trucks weren't showing their "full" range when fully charged. So Ford has made an update it seems that each time you charge it will reset/show what the maximum perfect range should be, although that isn't real world at all.

So some like it one way and some like it another. However like it is now, there is nothing realistic about it.
 

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Mine won’t install either. Tried multiple times (will keep trying daily until it works). Just get this message over and over:

We recently tried to install a Ford Power-Up software update for your 2022 F-150 but were unsuccessful. We’ll need your help to finish it. You’ll find detailed instructions on your in-vehicle screen (it’s pretty simple!). We’ll try the installation again at your next regularly scheduled update time. Thanks for your help. Ongoing updates like this help you enjoy the most updated version of your F-150.
 

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I believe this software was already installed on my 2023, when it was delivered last month. When charging above 80% on L2 charging, it is very Tesla-like in its range estimate. It seems to ignore recent driving history and revert to an EPA rating based number.
 

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Hi Folks,

At the last software update, related to range - my range drastically dropped.
I figured it was just a winter thing so ignored it.

Then yesterday, I applied the 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE update (Received Jan 08) and after a full 100% charge my range went to 515 km!!!

I checked again and now it's reporting 505km.

I'm using the Ford Charger Pro.

Has anyone else seen an over-reporting charge?

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What you are seeing is the result of 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE fine-tuning the delivery of energy from the EVSE. Now that you are running the new software, your Ford Charger Pro is selectively charging your battery with only those electrons that will best operate your Lightning. This gives you more range per charge just like Chevron's gasoline with Techron will give your ICE vehicles better range. ;)

OK, sarcasm off.

You're driving an EV now.

It doesn't matter what charger you're using. Chargers deliver energy to the battery. It is measured in kWh, not miles. The rate you charge is measured in kW, not miles per hour. It's equivalent to the gallons of gas a pump puts in the tank of an ICE vehicle. 100% charge is equivalent to a full tank.

The Guess-o-Meter (GOM) is not a perfect indicator of range as it has no idea where, you are going next, how fast you will drive, etc. That would be like thinking the fuel economy you got for the last three days driving around town on city streets will be the fuel economy you get tomorrow going across three states at 80 mph.

Yes, cold weather reduces range. Ford's algorithm used in the GOM has been very conservative to avoid people getting stuck due without juice. However, lots of people around here have been going off the rails that their GOM has dropped as the weather has gotten colder and they are now thinking something is wrong with their trucks. 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE has updated the GOM calculations to not be so conservative. That's the "Distance To EMPTY" (get the DTE in the update name?) they talk about in their software notes. Now that you were updated with 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE, your truck will work to recalibrate range estimates based on a more advanced algorithm Ford has been working on. It will improve your navigation system's range estimates (they know where you are going and can be quite accurate) and has also adjusted the GOM to hopefully cut down on the freaking out over the conservative estimates given by the old GOM algorithm.

It's similar to resetting your EV driving history to zero. The truck will restart at a new baseline and start learning your driving again.

Ford really does need to put a %SOC right next to the range on the Lightning like they do on the Mach E.

BTW, y'all are doing a bit better here on this Forum than some new Mach E drivers encountering their first winter. They are not only freaking out that their range is dropping fast, one had actually gone back to their dealer twice insisting they paid for an ER battery but only got an SR battery. Clearly the Mach E4X (X means eXtended range) badge and the window sticker were wrong. No, I'm not kidding.

One more reminder: the Ford Charge Station Pro (note that Ford cleverly doesn't call it a charger) is an EVSE (Electric Vehicle Service Equipment). When you use AC for charging, the EVSE delivers regulated power to the battery charger that is in your truck next to the battery. That charger converts the AC to DC to charge the battery. When you do DC Fast Charging, that big equipment is actually a battery charger and delivers DC directly to your battery.
 

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@FixUpHouse @Montym @Kawartha Lightning

I had this happen to me like 4 or 5 times as well.
I finally got it to update after someone told me to:

-Connect the Charger
-Tell the App to charge to 100%
-Inside the truck manually tell it to update.
-Wait the 23 or 28 minutes (I waited 45 minutes) and return.

**Note you will not be able to drive when it is trying to update.

This worked for me after multiple manual attempts.
 
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I apologize for the (seemingly dumb to me) question, but I have searched the forums, Ford's FAQ, and internet, but I think I am still a couple of versions behind. I keep checking updates but it says it's up to date. I do not have PaAK yet. Where in the settings is the best place to check for version and do the updates just get doled out in a certain order? I've had my Lightning for about 30 days, so just trying to figure out the pacing on how Ford has done updates in the past. Thank you for reading!
 

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The recent update resulted in a miles-to-empty bump of about 20-30miles for us! As silly as it is to obsess abt the GOM I’ll still take it happily haha.

We’ve had the truck for over 5k miles now in costal Maine. We don’t have a garage and the winter has been fairly mild in the low 20s to low 40s and we’ve seen an average range of about 170 to 185miles prior to the Jan 9 update (in the summer we were seeing 240s of course). As I said - with the update now looks to be about 210 mile range with current temps in the mid 20s. still love this truck! 🤷‍♂️

I suspect after driving in these same conditions for a week or so the GOM will go back down to the 180s
 

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Hi Folks,

At the last software update, related to range - my range drastically dropped.
I figured it was just a winter thing so ignored it.

Then yesterday, I applied the 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE update (Received Jan 08) and after a full 100% charge my range went to 515 km!!!

I checked again and now it's reporting 505km.

I'm using the Ford Charger Pro.

Has anyone else seen an over-reporting charge?

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that 313 miles, seems right.
 

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The recent update resulted in a miles-to-empty bump of about 20-30miles for us! As silly as it is to obsess abt the GOM I’ll still take it happily haha.

We’ve had the truck for over 5k miles now in costal Maine. We don’t have a garage and the winter has been fairly mild in the low 20s to low 40s and we’ve seen an average range of about 170 to 185miles prior to the Jan 9 update (in the summer we were seeing 240s of course). As I said - with the update now looks to be about 210 mile range with current temps in the mid 20s. still love this truck! 🤷‍♂️

I suspect after driving in these same conditions for a week or so the GOM will go back down to the 180s
My GOM jumped from 190ish @ 90% to 275 @ 90% after the update. Since I've been averaging 1.8 mi/kwh since taking delivery in September, I'm just continuing to do the math until (if?) the GOM ever goes back to looking at my actual driving... and switching the display to Calm once in a while to check battery charge %
 

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The recent update resulted in a miles-to-empty bump of about 20-30miles for us! As silly as it is to obsess abt the GOM I’ll still take it happily haha.

We’ve had the truck for over 5k miles now in costal Maine. We don’t have a garage and the winter has been fairly mild in the low 20s to low 40s and we’ve seen an average range of about 170 to 185miles prior to the Jan 9 update (in the summer we were seeing 240s of course). As I said - with the update now looks to be about 210 mile range with current temps in the mid 20s. still love this truck! 🤷‍♂️

I suspect after driving in these same conditions for a week or so the GOM will go back down to the 180s
Based on my experience, it may go back down if you mostly fast charge, but if you charge with L2 above 80%, it will likely be very close to that value every morning, then you will see it consume GOM miles twice as fast as driven miles until it drops back into line with reality. I think this update makes people feel better about their range after charging, but is very misleading.
 

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What you are seeing is the result of 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE fine-tuning the delivery of energy from the EVSE. Now that you are running the new software, your Ford Charger Pro is selectively charging your battery with only those electrons that will best operate your Lightning. This gives you more range per charge just like Chevron's gasoline with Techron will give your ICE vehicles better range. ;)

OK, sarcasm off.

You're driving an EV now.

It doesn't matter what charger you're using. Chargers deliver energy to the battery. It is measured in kWh, not miles. The rate you charge is measured in kW, not miles per hour. It's equivalent to the gallons of gas a pump puts in the tank of an ICE vehicle. 100% charge is equivalent to a full tank.

The Guess-o-Meter (GOM) is not a perfect indicator of range as it has no idea where, you are going next, how fast you will drive, etc. That would be like thinking the fuel economy you got for the last three days driving around town on city streets will be the fuel economy you get tomorrow going across three states at 80 mph.

Yes, cold weather reduces range. Ford's algorithm used in the GOM has been very conservative to avoid people getting stuck due without juice. However, lots of people around here have been going off the rails that their GOM has dropped as the weather has gotten colder and they are now thinking something is wrong with their trucks. 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE has updated the GOM calculations to not be so conservative. That's the "Distance To EMPTY" (get the DTE in the update name?) they talk about in their software notes. Now that you were updated with 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE, your truck will work to recalibrate range estimates based on a more advanced algorithm Ford has been working on. It will improve your navigation system's range estimates (they know where you are going and can be quite accurate) and has also adjusted the GOM to hopefully cut down on the freaking out over the conservative estimates given by the old GOM algorithm.

It's similar to resetting your EV driving history to zero. The truck will restart at a new baseline and start learning your driving again.

Ford really does need to put a %SOC right next to the range on the Lightning like they do on the Mach E.

BTW, y'all are doing a bit better here on this Forum than some new Mach E drivers encountering their first winter. They are not only freaking out that their range is dropping fast, one had actually gone back to their dealer twice insisting they paid for an ER battery but only got an SR battery. Clearly the Mach E4X (X means eXtended range) badge and the window sticker were wrong. No, I'm not kidding.

One more reminder: the Ford Charge Station Pro (note that Ford cleverly doesn't call it a charger) is an EVSE (Electric Vehicle Service Equipment). When you use AC for charging, the EVSE delivers regulated power to the battery charger that is in your truck next to the battery. That charger converts the AC to DC to charge the battery. When you do DC Fast Charging, that big equipment is actually a battery charger and delivers DC directly to your battery.
As Rocky Recardo said “Lucy, you got some ‘splaining to do”. If you use the “calm screen” on the screen behind the steering wheel it will show range and SOC together. Tap the up/down button on the right side of the steering wheel to adjust the view.
 

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As Rocky Recardo said “Lucy, you got some ‘splaining to do”. If you use the “calm screen” on the screen behind the steering wheel it will show range and SOC together. Tap the up/down button on the right side of the steering wheel to adjust the view.
You can also do Calm screen on the 15 inch, just press and hold the circular dial.
 

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What you are seeing is the result of 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE fine-tuning the delivery of energy from the EVSE. Now that you are running the new software, your Ford Charger Pro is selectively charging your battery with only those electrons that will best operate your Lightning. This gives you more range per charge just like Chevron's gasoline with Techron will give your ICE vehicles better range. ;)

OK, sarcasm off.

You're driving an EV now.

It doesn't matter what charger you're using. Chargers deliver energy to the battery. It is measured in kWh, not miles. The rate you charge is measured in kW, not miles per hour. It's equivalent to the gallons of gas a pump puts in the tank of an ICE vehicle. 100% charge is equivalent to a full tank.

The Guess-o-Meter (GOM) is not a perfect indicator of range as it has no idea where, you are going next, how fast you will drive, etc. That would be like thinking the fuel economy you got for the last three days driving around town on city streets will be the fuel economy you get tomorrow going across three states at 80 mph.

Yes, cold weather reduces range. Ford's algorithm used in the GOM has been very conservative to avoid people getting stuck due without juice. However, lots of people around here have been going off the rails that their GOM has dropped as the weather has gotten colder and they are now thinking something is wrong with their trucks. 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE has updated the GOM calculations to not be so conservative. That's the "Distance To EMPTY" (get the DTE in the update name?) they talk about in their software notes. Now that you were updated with 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE, your truck will work to recalibrate range estimates based on a more advanced algorithm Ford has been working on. It will improve your navigation system's range estimates (they know where you are going and can be quite accurate) and has also adjusted the GOM to hopefully cut down on the freaking out over the conservative estimates given by the old GOM algorithm.

It's similar to resetting your EV driving history to zero. The truck will restart at a new baseline and start learning your driving again.

Ford really does need to put a %SOC right next to the range on the Lightning like they do on the Mach E.

BTW, y'all are doing a bit better here on this Forum than some new Mach E drivers encountering their first winter. They are not only freaking out that their range is dropping fast, one had actually gone back to their dealer twice insisting they paid for an ER battery but only got an SR battery. Clearly the Mach E4X (X means eXtended range) badge and the window sticker were wrong. No, I'm not kidding.

One more reminder: the Ford Charge Station Pro (note that Ford cleverly doesn't call it a charger) is an EVSE (Electric Vehicle Service Equipment). When you use AC for charging, the EVSE delivers regulated power to the battery charger that is in your truck next to the battery. That charger converts the AC to DC to charge the battery. When you do DC Fast Charging, that big equipment is actually a battery charger and delivers DC directly to your battery.
Great information. Thank you!
 

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Does no one look at the colorful gauge that is on the left side of the ring on the left of the screen to get the SoC of the battery? It's broken into segments and it's easy to see roughly where your battery is in broad terms (100%, 75% 50%, etc). I get wanting that exact % value to be shown, but the rough SoC is displayed, if only graphically. Does that not cut it for most people? How did we survive all those years looking at a gas gauge that wasn't reading tank contents to the single digits? :sneaky:
 
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