[BeeLightning]

I am wondering if i should be looking into a specialized wheel or tire. I got the standard ones included with the LARIAT, but im thinking with all that weight and torque they will wear out quickly as i launch the truck multiple times daily.

For example: These tires are suppose to be specific for EVs
https://www.hankooktire.com/global/en/tires/ion.html

Any thoughts on specialized tires or good tires for heavier vehicles in general?

 

[FM_Jack]

I think that's the general issue, the wear, I haven't seen anything that specified that someone has one that doesn't. I was thinking about this earlier, mainly just the tire, because of the wheel spin people were getting at the San Antonio event. I've only looked at Continental at the moment, they have the Lightning as an option to pick but the only tire they recommend is an A/S that I don't think is specific for EVs.

I feel like the problem is that a tire that is fit for speed, like a summer tire on a sport car, but has a max load capable of what the Lightning will be isn't common. As well the max speed rating.

I figured I'm going to stick with these tires until more comes out. This is only the 3rd EV truck. I guess some knobby tires would work but I'm sure those don't help with speed.

I also wish the full size spare was the same size as the stocks. I haven't looked that hard about EV specific tires, because I figured they put tires on there that should do for now.

 

[FM_Jack]

Mistakes to Avoid When Shopping for New EV Tires

So it's time to replace your EV's tires. You probably won't be surprised to learn there are some important things to consider during the process.

www.motortrend.com

 

[2023 lighting]

Yep market will bear more tires as more big EVs hit the road.
Tires are generally going up in price, EV tires being specialized as they are I wouldn't be at all surprised to see prices of $300/tire and up. That's going to hurt. Especially if this thing eats tires like some tesla owners report.

 

[GDN]

Yep market will bear more tires as more big EVs hit the road.
Tires are generally going up in price, EV tires being specialized as they are I wouldn't be at all surprised to see prices of $300/tire and up. That's going to hurt. Especially if this thing eats tires like some tesla owners report.

I've got 2 2018 Model 3's. One is RWD (16K miles and plenty of tread) and the AWD has 31K miles and still decent tread. I do know other owners that say they had to replace at 15K, but I'm not sure why. I drive the AWD pretty agressive.

I will note this - I've tried many times and I've never been able to break a tire on this car - ever. Tesla is the king of getting the traction to all 4 wheels.

I'm a bit worried as Ford isn't even close. Every time I've seen the Lightning floored you get sqeal/chirp out of the front tires I think it is. They just don't have it ironed out perfectly yet. I don't think there is any reason one tire should be pulling more than another with all 4 on solid ground in a straight line. This does worry me.

 

[Voltz]

Every time I've seen the Lightning floored you get sqeal/chirp out of the front tires I think it is. They just don't have it ironed out perfectly yet. I don't think there is any reason one tire should be pulling more than another with all 4 on solid ground in a straight line. This does worry me.

I think Out of Spec Kyle’s theory is that it the front is lifting because it needs some more tweaks to torque vectoring between the identical F/R motors.

 

[GDN]

I think Out of Spec Kyle’s theory is that it the front is lifting because it needs some more tweaks to torque vectoring between the identical F/R motors.

I do recall hearing that, however, if that is the case, then the engineers should have the smarts to deliver a bit less power up front and put it to the rear motor when under heavy or full throttle. If a tire is slipping then they haven't done the job they can do. They are wasting power. I don't want a truck engineered for "most" situations, engineer it for all situations based on the input of the driver.

I know this is hard, Tesla didn't have it perfect day one, but Tesla has been the gold standard Ford is going to get measured by every day I'm in the drivers seat.

 

[2023 lighting]

A good reason to be on the waiting list until next year. I rarely go for 1st year releases.

 

[FM_Jack]

Yea but isn't that something they can fix with software updates?

 

[Voltz]

Yea but isn't that something they can fix with software updates?

That's what I think Kyle was implying, in addition to his one-pedal driving rollback/late-brake-lock-at-stop complaints.

 

[Voltz]

I rarely go for 1st year releases.

Me, too. I got software burned by Volkswagen on the ID.4; the car build was awesome. I trust Ford more than VW at this point. I think that the Mach-E makes Lightning at least 2nd generation when it comes to integration with the battery and electric propulsion components. Forty-five years and 14 generations current for the F-150 bits of Lightning.

 

[FM_Jack]

The possible reason for allowing that wheel spin could be because they aren't marketing this as a performance vehicle. If it is loaded with weight in the frunk, it probably won't spin. (I know it spun with towing - I believe)

 

[btreece]

The possible reason for allowing that wheel spin could be because they aren't marketing this as a performance vehicle. If it is loaded with weight in the frunk, it probably won't spin. (I know it spun with towing - I believe)

Maybe eliminate that spin only for Sport mode???

 

[GoGoGadgetTruck]

Maybe eliminate that spin only for Sport mode???

what if I want more spin in Sport mode, like all four wheels leaving all of their tread in one massive smoke session? 🤔😉

 

[ChasingCoral]

That's what I think Kyle was implying, in addition to his one-pedal driving rollback/late-brake-lock-at-stop complaints.

There are a number of fine tuning issues on the Mustang Mach E that have been ironed out in OTAs.

 

[2023 lighting]

There are a number of fine tuning issues on the Mustang Mach E that have been ironed out in OTAs.

Concerning, they need to bring their A game. I wonder how many high tech software developers Ford has vs Tesla. I can't imagine there's a huge draw for talented tech workers to move to Detroit! Does Ford have development offices on the West coast or Texas?

 

[ChasingCoral]

Concerning, they need to bring their A game. I wonder how many high tech software developers Ford has vs Tesla. I can't imagine there's a huge draw for talented tech workers to move to Detroit! Does Ford have development offices on the West coast or Texas?

Ford has been hiring boatloads of programmers and other tech folks. They had underestimated the software staffing needs and learned when they needed to start supporting the Mach E.

 

[FM_Jack]

Concerning, they need to bring their A game. I wonder how many high tech software developers Ford has vs Tesla. I can't imagine there's a huge draw for talented tech workers to move to Detroit! Does Ford have development offices on the West coast or Texas?

A little over stated if you think everyone that programs wants to live in CA or TX or has to. 2 Rivian developers live in my neighborhood here in MD. Their Rivians have MI plates.