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One of the questions I get asked a lot is can you charge the truck at home overnight. It's a question asked by people who are new.

The answer is that unless you're willing to add a dedicated pro charger, then no, your overnight trickle charging with the basic charger using a 110v wall output will not be adequate to need, and you’ll be visiting DC fast charging regularly.

The image below shows just how slow. Here is the AC-Basic charger plugged into a relatives 110v house service. 62% to 100% estimated as 32 hours.

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One of the questions I get asked a lot is can you charge the truck at home overnight. It's a question asked by people who are new.

The answer is that unless you're willing to add a dedicated pro charger, then no, your overnight trickle charging with the basic charger using a 110v wall output will not be adequate to need, and you’ll be visiting DC fast charging regularly.

The image below shows just how slow. Here is the AC-Basic charger plugged into a relatives 110v house service. 62% to 100% estimated as 32 hours.

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Just so the people asking you those questions have the best information, I would change the "dedicated pro charger" to "Level 2 charger". I am not sure what a "pro charger" is.
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I travel with an adjustable EVSE, dongles, and L14-30 30A extension cord. I use L14-30P to 14-50R dogbone for the EVSE to plug in to, and carry several types of 240V plug dogbones. I can count on 16-24 Amp 240V charging at (kindly tolerant) relatives and friends. You can get ~100 miles over a long winter's night at 16A.

Turn the extension cord around and it also matches the 30A/240V Pro Power receptacle for backup power.
 

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I travel with an adjustable EVSE, dongles, and L14-30 30A extension cord. I use L14-30P to 14-50R dogbone for the EVSE to plug in to, and carry several types of 240V plug dogbones. I can count on 16-24 Amp 240V charging at (kindly tolerant) relatives and friends. You can get ~100 miles over a long winter's night at 16A.

Turn the extension cord around and it also matches the 30A/240V Pro Power receptacle for backup power.



You wouldn't have a pic of these accessories you speak of, would you? Sounds like something to keep on hand.

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I travel with an adjustable EVSE, dongles, and L14-30 30A extension cord. I use L14-30P to 14-50R dogbone for the EVSE to plug in to, and carry several types of 240V plug dogbones. I can count on 16-24 Amp 240V charging at (kindly tolerant) relatives and friends. You can get ~100 miles over a long winter's night at 16A.

Turn the extension cord around and it also matches the 30A/240V Pro Power receptacle for backup power.
I would be careful with using a 30a to 50a dogbone with the TMC. The 14-50 adapter on the TMC will tell the EVSE to offer 32 amps to the car. This will overload a 30 amp circuit, especially when using it a ”continuous“ manner such as charging an EV To be safe, you should get an L14-30P to 14-30R dogbone and use the TMC with the 14-30P adapter so that it only charges at 24 amps when you are connecting to 30a sources.
 

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I would be careful with using a 30a to 50a dogbone with the TMC.
You're correct about the TMC and, in general, EVSEs that use different dongles and different plugs to adjust the charging rate. However, I standardized on the 14-50 that matches the mobile EVSE and use one where the unit is adjustable between 10-40A. Anything using a 30A extension cord, I limit the charge to 16A or 24A or less. I had to use 10A for a place with an old finicky breaker. Anything over 24A like 6-50 or 10-50 receptacles, I use plugs direct to 14-50R 50A dogbones.

When I bought it, this was the only unit I could find that adjusted above 32A to a full 40A. To me, it's been the perfect mobile EVSE. It even has a closed WiFi connection that is great for camping in no-cell zones:

 

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You're correct about the TMC and, in general, EVSEs that use different dongles and different plugs to adjust the charging rate. However, I standardized on the 14-50 that matches the mobile EVSE and use one where the unit is adjustable between 10-40A. Anything using a 30A extension cord, I limit the charge to 16A or 24A or less. I had to use 10A for a place with an old finicky breaker. Anything over 24A like 6-50 or 10-50 receptacles, I use plugs direct to 14-50R 50A dogbones.

When I bought it, this was the only unit I could find that adjusted above 32A to a full 40A. To me, it's been the perfect mobile EVSE. It even has a closed WiFi connection that is great for camping in no-cell zones:

That makes more sense, for some reason in my mind I connected you post with the follow-up post with all the links to the TMC and adapters.
I use a setup similar to yours, but I stuck with a 32 amp unit as it primarily for mobile use. I got this unit as a Black Friday special For a price that was so good, it would be hard to go wrong.
 

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lol, not on 110v, you won't overnight charge any ev with that.

Level 2 home charging is a must if you own an EV.
Even the 30 kWh battery on our old Nissan Leaf took over 24 hours to charge on L1.
 

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lol, not on 110v, you won't overnight charge any ev with that.

Level 2 home charging is a must if you own an EV.
Totally agree! Fortunately my oven, dryer, and each of the A/C units on my house use 220 which is the same pre-req for Level 2 - just needed a $20 part and $50 of labor to grab a Level 2 capable plug in my garage. Found a L2 charger from Home Depot, attached to wall outlet electrician installed).
 

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Totally agree! Fortunately my oven, dryer, and each of the A/C units on my house use 220 which is the same pre-req for Level 2 - just needed a $20 part and $50 of labor to grab a Level 2 capable plug in my garage. Found a L2 charger from Home Depot, attached to wall outlet electrician installed).
Before you do a do it yourself install, I encourage you to watch this video
 

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I hired an electrician to install a L2 for my PHEV, only concern I have had recently is if that PHEV L2 will scale for the upcoming BEV (it's been a long time coming, I will believe it when I have the privilege to charge it).
 

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I hired an electrician to install a L2 for my PHEV, only concern I have had recently is if that PHEV L2 will scale for the upcoming BEV (it's been a long time coming, I will believe it when I have the privilege to charge it).
Two questions: What is the kW rate (or amperage) of the L2 EVSE? How far do you normally drive in a day?
 
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