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Well, I think I am not alone when I write that I am not a Lightning owner. I will let you all know when I am. I reserved a Bronco 2 years ago, and received it December 22, 2021. I am expecting a 2023 Lightning in a year. While it is pretty cool to have a first year model, I am very happy that my dealer decided to defer my deliver until 2023. Which has benefits. 1) I can enjoy the bronco longer before trading it in for the Lightning, if I decide to do that, which will be a tough decision for sure. 2) I do not want to experience first year model issues again. Even though my Bronco has not had any of the issues others have seen like, 2.7L Ecoboost RUD due to out of spec valves, (never confirmed by FoMoCo) or the coolant hose wear and failure due to abrasion.

Anyway, I am looking forward to owning a BEV Truck in 2023. I will be watching the development of the Lightning, the Silverado EV RST, the Hummer HEV3X and the CyberTruck. Which one will be in my driveway in 2023 is yet to be know by me.

Anyway, Hello "Lightning Owners". I am looking forward to the Ford Lightning Ownership experience along with the rest of you.
 

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Welcome to the forum @I=V/R! Do you have a reservation for any of the other electric trucks aside from the Lightning?
I do. Two Silverado's (Standard and RST models), One Hummer HEV3X, and one CyberTruck. They all have unique approaches to the BEV truck design. While I hate the way the CyberTruck looks, I like the exo-skeleton and the gigapress cast front end and rear end design with structural battery pack. Plus Tesla has led the way with for 10 years now. The Lightning is a Ford so that comes with expectations for a FoMoCo vehicle. Having a first class Ford Dealership in my town really helps with this choice, but hopefully, a BEV truck won't need much support in the future. The Chevy Silverado really quickens my pluse when I think about it. There are many features on the Silverado RST that suit my lifestyle, but this GM product is going to be very expensive. Plus, I have no experience with the GM Dealership in my town. But again, hopefully a BEV truck will not need much support. In the end, the BEV I pick will be based on when my build will become available for me to buy, and how competitive each brand will be when my build is promised.

What is important to me are the following:
1) How well is the truck built, and how well does it perform on various conditions, running errands around town, highway trips of 100 km or more, and how well does it handle various road conditions, gravel/dirt, rain, mud and snow.
2) Range is important, but honestly, I will only be interested in Range if I can't provide the needed power at my home for my regular driving. If I have to depend on DC fast charging, I will want as much range as I can stuff into the battery. And then there is another consideration if this is what I will be doing. How will a full battery charge age? Can I charge it up, and expect to lose 5% per day in static battery charge? If this is the case, which BEV will suit my needs the best will be the one with the best energy management systems. I don't understand what Chevy is doing with their system because information to date is very weak, and mostly a marketing department attention grabber. Both Ford and GM are really good at appealing to our emotions when it comes to making decisions, and I think they have found that less information about a feature is better than more. So, we may never know what Chevy Means by Ultium Energy Recovery. Is this something like Unobrtanium? Time will tell.
3) Which company will provide the best support while on a road trip. Considering availability of Fast DC chargers and service should something go wrong. Tesla has already established the best charging network, and have proved they can perform many upgrades over wireless network access. Most companies will provide wireless updates, but which company has proven they know how to do that? So far only Tesla. But then there are the dealerships in states that are trying to make system upgrades illegal if they are not performed at a brick and mortar dealership. Another reason to not by from a legacy manufacture. If their Dealerships are going to play political games, then we need to shop elsewhere.

I have good reasons to buy the Lightning. It will be the first to market in quantity. It looks normal not like something from Mars. I am a Ford Bronco owner and I am familiar with the build, fit and finish. I really do want those fancy seats that I can sleep in at a work site or rest stop on a long trip. (Not sure how smart this is though) The Lightning Frunk is the best I have seen so far. But I really do not like this 22" wheels. I guess they think a luxury truck owner will never take their beauty off road, or park too close to a curb.

I plan to watch this owners group and hope to use what I learn here to help me decide which BEV truck to buy in the end. I hope that wasn't TMI for you Super.

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I do. Two Silverado's (Standard and RST models), One Hummer HEV3X, and one CyberTruck. They all have unique approaches to the BEV truck design. While I hate the way the CyberTruck looks, I like the exo-skeleton and the gigapress cast front end and rear end design with structural battery pack. Plus Tesla has led the way with for 10 years now. The Lightning is a Ford so that comes with expectations for a FoMoCo vehicle. Having a first class Ford Dealership in my town really helps with this choice, but hopefully, a BEV truck won't need much support in the future. The Chevy Silverado really quickens my pluse when I think about it. There are many features on the Silverado RST that suit my lifestyle, but this GM product is going to be very expensive. Plus, I have no experience with the GM Dealership in my town. But again, hopefully a BEV truck will not need much support. In the end, the BEV I pick will be based on when my build will become available for me to buy, and how competitive each brand will be when my build is promised.

What is important to me are the following:
1) How well is the truck built, and how well does it perform on various conditions, running errands around town, highway trips of 100 km or more, and how well does it handle various road conditions, gravel/dirt, rain, mud and snow.
2) Range is important, but honestly, I will only be interested in Range if I can't provide the needed power at my home for my regular driving. If I have to depend on DC fast charging, I will want as much range as I can stuff into the battery. And then there is another consideration if this is what I will be doing. How will a full battery charge age? Can I charge it up, and expect to lose 5% per day in static battery charge? If this is the case, which BEV will suit my needs the best will be the one with the best energy management systems. I don't understand what Chevy is doing with their system because information to date is very weak, and mostly a marketing department attention grabber. Both Ford and GM are really good at appealing to our emotions when it comes to making decisions, and I think they have found that less information about a feature is better than more. So, we may never know what Chevy Means by Ultium Energy Recovery. Is this something like Unobrtanium? Time will tell.
3) Which company will provide the best support while on a road trip. Considering availability of Fast DC chargers and service should something go wrong. Tesla has already established the best charging network, and have proved they can perform many upgrades over wireless network access. Most companies will provide wireless updates, but which company has proven they know how to do that? So far only Tesla. But then there are the dealerships in states that are trying to make system upgrades illegal if they are not performed at a brick and mortar dealership. Another reason to not by from a legacy manufacture. If their Dealerships are going to play political games, then we need to shop elsewhere.

I have good reasons to buy the Lightning. It will be the first to market in quantity. It looks normal not like something from Mars. I am a Ford Bronco owner and I am familiar with the build, fit and finish. I really do want those fancy seats that I can sleep in at a work site or rest stop on a long trip. (Not sure how smart this is though) The Lightning Frunk is the best I have seen so far. But I really do not like this 22" wheels. I guess they think a luxury truck owner will never take their beauty off road, or park too close to a curb.

I plan to watch this owners group and hope to use what I learn here to help me decide which BEV truck to buy in the end. I hope that wasn't TMI for you Super.

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The Silverado WT looks like it's a decent value but for me at the price the Silverado RSTs are going for I'd just go and get the Hummer. I'm not big on the Cybertruck but you can't ignore Teslas battery tech and charging network.

As far as charging network support goes, I don't expect Ford and GM to build their own exclusive chargers, I think they're just going keep piggybacking on the Electrify America/Canada charging networks.

Are you leaning towards either of the trucks right now or is it still up in the air for you?
 

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The Lightning will be first out of the gate. (Sadly I am ignoring Rivian which has been in production. I just never saw that one coming to be honest). If the Lightning proves to be as good a value as I think it is going to be when compared to the others, I will buy it for sure. Which one i.e.,. Lariat or Platinum is uncertain.
 

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Based on my experience with the Mustang Mach E, battery loss while parked is tiny -- nowhere close to 5% per day. Way less than 1% per day.
 
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