[ChasingCoral]

Good news: Ford has realized the delayed delivery of the FCSP is causing issues for people. Everyone who buys a Lightning with ER battery through the end of June is getting a bit of love from Ford to help alleviate the pain.

 

[nikos]

500KW is what we got with our Mach Es also.
$500 will come really handy to offset the 100 amp circuit line. Basically a 50% compensation. Take into consideration the $1100 federal credit from your taxes and I am looking at almost 100% compensation as long as you are willing to wait and claim it on 2022 taxes. Interesting.!!!
Don't delay my truck Ford.!!!!!

 

[Voltz]

Take into consideration the $1100 federal credit from your taxes and I am looking at almost 100% compensation as long as you are willing to wait and claim it on 2022 taxes.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that ≤$1,000 tax credit was due to expire on 12/31/21. I do not think it was extended.

 

[nikos]

I guess, I have to look at that Infrastructure Bill that Congress passed last year. It may have something similar in it. Major incentives for charging infrastructure, why not some incentives for us who charge at home.
Whatever it is. It will not be a deal breaker to me. I just waiting for my Lightning.
A gallon of gas in my area is $4.60.
A KW in my area us12.7 cents.
I am getting impatient lately.!!!!!

 

[[email protected]]

I just checked my FordPass and I’m still at 250 Kilowatt hours. I’m sure it’ll take a few more days yet to load considering this just came out. But it is good to see that Ford is trying to take care of us.

Good news: Ford has realized the delayed delivery of the FCSP is causing issues for people. Everyone who buys a Lightning with ER battery through the end of June is getting a bit of love from Ford to help alleviate the pain.

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[nikos]

The irony is that I still have 200KW to expense with my Mach E. The reason is, EA stations recognize my vehicle 50% of the time. When I am on the road, I don't have the time to call EA to ask for my credit. I just use my account to expedite my charging session. It will be the same I believe with the Lightning.
First, waiting for the Lightning to arrive. Already scheduled three camping trips and I am ready to learn how the truck will do.
Can't wait.

 

[Fishstyx]

I just finished my first shirt road trip in Lariat ER. 120 each way with about 70 miles around the destination area (northern Va). I departed with about 65% SOC. I stopped at an EA charger advertised as 150kw. I plugged in at 29% and it recognized the vehicle and started charging at 125kw. I charged for 35 min to get to 81% (52% added). I drove around town for a couple of days then drove home, arriving with 19% left.
Yesterday afternoon I plugged into a standard 110 outlet in the garage an get about 500w or 1 mile range per hour.
I have a 50 amp outlet for a welder in my garage but it’s a NEMA 6-50, where we need 14-50. I ordered an adaptor from Amazon but I wonder if it will work. The 3-prong 6-50 is hot-hot-ground whereas the 4-prong 14-50 is hot-hot-neutral-ground. I may need to replace the outlet to get the four wires then use an adapter for 6-50 to use the welder. I’m going to try the 6 to 14 adapter first. It arrives tomorrow.
Observations:
1) range estimation was spot on, at least in terms of the decrease in range remaining matches actual miles driven
2) on the drive south I pushed through ~20mph headwinds that reduced perf to 2 miles per kWh. On the way home with light winds cruising at 65-70 it was 2.4 miles.
3) range anxiety on trips is a real thing. Sure, there are lots of charging options but most of those are L1/L2. Fast chargers are few and far between, especially in rural areas which can mean your only option is waiting hours for a partial charge. Before going to the EA fast charger at a Sheetz gas station I tried an EV go station at a mall and the parking spaces were too small for a Lightning because they put the chargers between already small regular parking spaces and the lot was packed. Also the cords were short.
4) I REALLY wish Ford put charging ports on both sides. DC fast charger cords I saw were a lot shorter than typical gas station lines so you can only hookup nose in with the charger favoring the driver side. If the chargers are to the side front of a space you can only get to it one way and if that way is blocked you’re SOL

 

[btreece]

I just finished my first shirt road trip in Lariat ER. 120 each way with about 70 miles around the destination area (northern Va). I departed with about 65% SOC. I stopped at an EA charger advertised as 150kw. I plugged in at 29% and it recognized the vehicle and started charging at 125kw. I charged for 35 min to get to 81% (52% added). I drove around town for a couple of days then drove home, arriving with 19% left.
Yesterday afternoon I plugged into a standard 110 outlet in the garage an get about 500w or 1 mile range per hour.
I have a 50 amp outlet for a welder in my garage but it’s a NEMA 6-50, where we need 14-50. I ordered an adaptor from Amazon but I wonder if it will work. The 3-prong 6-50 is hot-hot-ground whereas the 4-prong 14-50 is hot-hot-neutral-ground. I may need to replace the outlet to get the four wires then use an adapter for 6-50 to use the welder. I’m going to try the 6 to 14 adapter first. It arrives tomorrow.
Observations:
1) range estimation was spot on, at least in terms of the decrease in range remaining matches actual miles driven
2) on the drive south I pushed through ~20mph headwinds that reduced perf to 2 miles per kWh. On the way home with light winds cruising at 65-70 it was 2.4 miles.
3) range anxiety on trips is a real thing. Sure, there are lots of charging options but most of those are L1/L2. Fast chargers are few and far between, especially in rural areas which can mean your only option is waiting hours for a partial charge. Before going to the EA fast charger at a Sheetz gas station I tried an EV go station at a mall and the parking spaces were too small for a Lightning because they put the chargers between already small regular parking spaces and the lot was packed. Also the cords were short.
4) I REALLY wish Ford put charging ports on both sides. DC fast charger cords I saw were a lot shorter than typical gas station lines so you can only hookup nose in with the charger favoring the driver side. If the chargers are to the side front of a space you can only get to it one way and if that way is blocked you’re SOL

Great information, thanks for sharing!

 

[bmcons]

I just finished my first shirt road trip in Lariat ER. 120 each way with about 70 miles around the destination area (northern Va). I departed with about 65% SOC. I stopped at an EA charger advertised as 150kw. I plugged in at 29% and it recognized the vehicle and started charging at 125kw. I charged for 35 min to get to 81% (52% added). I drove around town for a couple of days then drove home, arriving with 19% left.
Yesterday afternoon I plugged into a standard 110 outlet in the garage an get about 500w or 1 mile range per hour.
I have a 50 amp outlet for a welder in my garage but it’s a NEMA 6-50, where we need 14-50. I ordered an adaptor from Amazon but I wonder if it will work. The 3-prong 6-50 is hot-hot-ground whereas the 4-prong 14-50 is hot-hot-neutral-ground. I may need to replace the outlet to get the four wires then use an adapter for 6-50 to use the welder. I’m going to try the 6 to 14 adapter first. It arrives tomorrow.
Observations:
1) range estimation was spot on, at least in terms of the decrease in range remaining matches actual miles driven
2) on the drive south I pushed through ~20mph headwinds that reduced perf to 2 miles per kWh. On the way home with light winds cruising at 65-70 it was 2.4 miles.
3) range anxiety on trips is a real thing. Sure, there are lots of charging options but most of those are L1/L2. Fast chargers are few and far between, especially in rural areas which can mean your only option is waiting hours for a partial charge. Before going to the EA fast charger at a Sheetz gas station I tried an EV go station at a mall and the parking spaces were too small for a Lightning because they put the chargers between already small regular parking spaces and the lot was packed. Also the cords were short.
4) I REALLY wish Ford put charging ports on both sides. DC fast charger cords I saw were a lot shorter than typical gas station lines so you can only hookup nose in with the charger favoring the driver side. If the chargers are to the side front of a space you can only get to it one way and if that way is blocked you’re SOL

I think that most, if not all plug in level 2 chargers (for example, the Tesla one and the one from Chargepoint), do not use 4 wires for the 14-50 plug, just 3, the same as the 6-50 plug. I was going to just install a 6-50 outlet myself and charge both the Ford F150 Lightning and the Tesla Model Y. The mobile chargers should be the same.

 

[RDale]

I just finished my first shirt road trip in Lariat ER. 120 each way with about 70 miles around the destination area (northern Va). I departed with about 65% SOC. I stopped at an EA charger advertised as 150kw. I plugged in at 29% and it recognized the vehicle and started charging at 125kw. I charged for 35 min to get to 81% (52% added). I drove around town for a couple of days then drove home, arriving with 19% left.
Yesterday afternoon I plugged into a standard 110 outlet in the garage an get about 500w or 1 mile range per hour.
I have a 50 amp outlet for a welder in my garage but it’s a NEMA 6-50, where we need 14-50. I ordered an adaptor from Amazon but I wonder if it will work. The 3-prong 6-50 is hot-hot-ground whereas the 4-prong 14-50 is hot-hot-neutral-ground. I may need to replace the outlet to get the four wires then use an adapter for 6-50 to use the welder. I’m going to try the 6 to 14 adapter first. It arrives tomorrow.
Observations:
1) range estimation was spot on, at least in terms of the decrease in range remaining matches actual miles driven
2) on the drive south I pushed through ~20mph headwinds that reduced perf to 2 miles per kWh. On the way home with light winds cruising at 65-70 it was 2.4 miles.
3) range anxiety on trips is a real thing. Sure, there are lots of charging options but most of those are L1/L2. Fast chargers are few and far between, especially in rural areas which can mean your only option is waiting hours for a partial charge. Before going to the EA fast charger at a Sheetz gas station I tried an EV go station at a mall and the parking spaces were too small for a Lightning because they put the chargers between already small regular parking spaces and the lot was packed. Also the cords were short.
4) I REALLY wish Ford put charging ports on both sides. DC fast charger cords I saw were a lot shorter than typical gas station lines so you can only hookup nose in with the charger favoring the driver side. If the chargers are to the side front of a space you can only get to it one way and if that way is blocked you’re SOL

Great info @Fishstyx thanks for this. When you went to the EVGO station, assuming your could park properly were the cords still too short for the Lightning?

 

[Fishstyx]

Great info @Fishstyx thanks for this. When you went to the EVGO station, assuming your could park properly were the cords still too short for the Lightning?

The cord would have worked but I would have to park nose in and there wasn’t room. I was able to back into the space but it was too sort to come across the hood plus it was really tight and right then some guy who looked like he was training for Mr Olympia walked up to get in his car that I was pinched against so I decided it was best to go somewhere else.

 

[Fishstyx]

I think that most, if not all plug in level 2 chargers (for example, the Tesla one and the one from Chargepoint), do not use 4 wires for the 14-50 plug, just 3, the same as the 6-50 plug. I was going to just install a 6-50 outlet myself and charge both the Ford F150 Lightning and the Tesla Model Y. The mobile chargers should be the same.

Thanks. That’s good to know. In that case the adaptor coming tomorrow should work. I have to drive to Philadelphia tomorrow to pickup a load of equipment and back (120 miles each way) so it looks like I’ll be stopping early at a fast charger. Will be interesting to see range impact when substantially loaded without trailer.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Update from Blue Oval Forums:

2022MY F-150 Lightning Ford Charge Station Pro Distribution Delay - UPDATED

Reason for Supersede:

• Including customer satisfaction actions to support the Ford Charge Station Pro Distribution Delay.

CUSTOMER SATISFACTION ACTIONS
For customers who purchase an Extended Range Battery F-150 Lightning TM and take delivery through June 30, 2022, Ford Motor Company will take the following actions:
1. Add an additional complimentary 250 kWh of DC fast-charging with Electrify America (EA) leveraging the BlueOval TM Charge Network (BOCN) via the FordPass TM App bringing the vehicle total to complimentary 500 kWh (equivalent to 3-4 fill-ups).
a. No customer action is needed as this update will be reflected in the customer’s FordPass® account after the customer enrolls in the BlueOval TM Charge Network.
2. $500 Mastercard debit card is intended to help offset home charging installation expenses.
a. Debit cards will be mailed to affected customers after the vehicle is reported-sold.
b. Customers can expect the debit card to arrive 3-4 weeks after reported-sold.

Delivery must be from Dealer stock by June 30, 2022 to receive the above benefits. Customers will be notified through a unique Ford CRM Email.

ACTION REQUESTED

• To support F-150 Lightning Launch, ensure your teams are aware of a delay in the distribution of the Ford Charge Station Pro

SUMMARY
Ford Motor Company had previously announced the 2022 F-150 Lightning Ford Charge Station Pro (FCSP) distribution plan through Sunrun, Ford Motor Company’s distributor & recommended installer. The availability of the Ford Charge Station Pro has experienced a short delay which is detailed below.

DELAY IN DISTRIBUTION OF THE FORD CHARGE STATION PRO
The Ford Charge Station Pro (FCSP) may not be available at the time of delivery for some extended-range F-150 Lightning customers. Ford expects FCSPs to be shipped no later than June 30th.
Customers should be reminded of the alternative ways to charge their F-150 Lightnings:
1. The Ford Mobile Power Cord with a 120-volt and 240-volt plug to allow for charging at home.
a. Note: the 120-volt is considered a “trickle” charge which provides a charge rate of 2 miles/hour. The 240-volt requires a 240-volt NEMA 14-50 outlet,bringing the charge rate to 15 miles/hour, and can be installed by a licensed electrician. See attached Home Installation Tips for the Ford Mobile Power Cord.
2. Complimentary 2-year access to the BlueOval Charge Network. Access to the BlueOval Charge Network allows access to a network of charging partners with the FordPass app.
a. Charging partners are: Electrify America, EVConnect, EVGO, Flo, Chargepoint, and SemaCharge.
3. 250 kWh of free charging at Electrify America DC Fast Chargers via your FordPass app.

DISTRBUTION OF 80-AMP FORD CHARGE STATION PRO (FCSP) AFTER VEHICLE DELIVERY
For customers who take delivery of their extended-range F-150 Lightning without their FCSP:

• Memo Program #14094 ($0) will be automatically claimed in SmartVincent for ALL F-150 Lightning Extended Range models, which will enable Ford to share customer data with Sunrun
• An updated Customer Acknowledgement Form will be required to authorize Sunrun to verify shipping address (see attached)
• Sunrun will contact customers to verify shipping address for FCSP & discuss optional installation services once their FCSP becomes available.
• If Sunrun is unable to connect within 5 business days after the FCSP becomes available, Sunrun will ship the FCSP to vehicle sold-to address as reported by the Dealer.
• Customers may contact Sunrun at 855-341-0237 to confirm and/or update shipping address if different than sold-to address.

FCSP_CustomerAcknowledgement_Delay.pdf
EFC10111-Home-Installation-Tips.pdf

 

[Fishstyx]

I haven’t received the additional 250 credit yet so it seems they aren’t in a hurry to roll that out.

 

[bmcons]

Thanks. That’s good to know. In that case the adaptor coming tomorrow should work. I have to drive to Philadelphia tomorrow to pickup a load of equipment and back (120 miles each way) so it looks like I’ll be stopping early at a fast charger. Will be interesting to see range impact when substantially loaded without trailer.

Have you been able to test that 6-50 adapter? Does it work as intended?

 

[Fishstyx]

Unfortunately no. I have to get the circuit replaced next week. Whoever installed it, did it very wrong. I received the 6-50 to 14-50 adaptor, plugged it in and the breaker popped. Turns out there’s a 20 amp breaker and the wire is 12 gauge x2 hots. Fortunately the plug is close to the panel so it’s easy to rewire but wow, can’t make any assumptions when it comes electrical added on by previous homeowner.

Have you been able to test that 6-50 adapter? Does it work as intended?

 

[Tugg the Folf]

Unfortunately no. I have to get the circuit replaced next week. Whoever installed it, did it very wrong. I received the 6-50 to 14-50 adaptor, plugged it in and the breaker popped. Turns out there’s a 20 amp breaker and the wire is 12 gauge x2 hots. Fortunately the plug is close to the panel so it’s easy to rewire but wow, can’t make any assumptions when it comes electrical added on by previous homeowner.


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It is a good thing they at least put the correct circuit breaker for the wire. Otherwise you would be having an other problem. I guess it is always good to check these things before using them and even invest in getting an electrician to do an inspection if you don't know!

 

[nikos]

Unfortunately no. I have to get the circuit replaced next week. Whoever installed it, did it very wrong. I received the 6-50 to 14-50 adaptor, plugged it in and the breaker popped. Turns out there’s a 20 amp breaker and the wire is 12 gauge x2 hots. Fortunately the plug is close to the panel so it’s easy to rewire but wow, can’t make any assumptions when it comes electrical added on by previous homeowner.


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The wires couldn't handle the current.
The circuit breaker was the correct one but the wires would have overheated to the melting point. A good way to burning your house. Good find.

 

[bmcons]

Unfortunately no. I have to get the circuit replaced next week. Whoever installed it, did it very wrong. I received the 6-50 to 14-50 adaptor, plugged it in and the breaker popped. Turns out there’s a 20 amp breaker and the wire is 12 gauge x2 hots. Fortunately the plug is close to the panel so it’s easy to rewire but wow, can’t make any assumptions when it comes electrical added on by previous homeowner.


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For what it’s worth, for my 6-50 outlet install (which is not done yet, as I mostly charge at work), I’ve purchased an industrial grade outlet, a GFCI 50AMP breaker, an industrial grade metal housing and faceplate, and will use 6 gauge wire. I’ve opted for the 6-50 since the neutral does not seem to be used by the EV mobile chargers.

 

[Fishstyx]

The wires couldn't handle the current.
The circuit breaker was the correct one but the wires would have overheated to the melting point. A good way to burning your house. Good find.

The situation ended up being worse than I first thought. There was also an adjacent 120 outlet that was literally hotwired off one of the poles on that 6-50 that also stole a neutral connection from a completely different circuit. It’s all fixed

I had a proper electrician come in and remove the amateur bird nest. I reused the 12AWG run for a dedicated 120 plug for a compressor and replaced the 6-50 receptacle with a quality one, romex 6x2 and a new 50A breaker. My main panel is now 100% full so not sure if I’m even going to bother with the FCSP install.