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Ford EV Customers To Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Superchargers; Company to add North American Charging Standard Port in Future EVs

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Ford EV Customers To Gain Access to 12,000 Tesla Superchargers; Company to add North American Charging Standard Port in Future EVs
  • Starting early next year, Ford EV customers will have access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers across the U.S. and Canada, in addition to the over 10,000 DC fast-chargers that are already part of the BlueOval Charge Network. This will give Ford EV customers unprecedented access to fast-charging
  • Mustang Mach-E, F-150 Lightning and E-Transit customers will be able to access the Superchargers via an adapter and software integration along with activation and payment via FordPass or Ford Pro Intelligence
  • In 2025, Ford will offer next-generation electric vehicles with the North American Charging Standard (NACS) connector built-in, eliminating the need for an adapter to access Tesla Superchargers
  • The reliable Tesla Supercharger network has already established charging corridors across the U.S. and Canada
DEARBORN, Mich., May 25, 2023 – Ford Motor Company said today it reached an agreement with Tesla Motors that will provide Ford electric vehicle customers access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers across the U.S. and Canada, doubling the number of fast-chargers available to Ford EV customers starting Spring 2024.

“This is great news for our customers who will have unprecedented access to the largest network of fast-chargers in the U.S. and Canada with 12,000+ Tesla Superchargers plus 10,000+ fast-chargers already in the BlueOval Charge Network,” said Jim Farley, Ford president and CEO. “Widespread access to fast-charging is absolutely vital to our growth as an EV brand, and this breakthrough agreement comes as we are ramping up production of our popular Mustang Mach-E and F-150 Lightning, and preparing to launch a series of next-generation EVs starting in 2025.”

Added Rebecca Tinucci, Tesla’s senior director of charging infrastructure: “We’ve spent the last 10 years building an industry-leading Charging Network that enables freedom to travel and provides charging confidence for our Tesla owners. We’re excited to deliver on our mission to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy by welcoming Ford owners, and other electric vehicles who adopt NACS, to our thousands of Superchargers across North America.”
A Tesla-developed adapter will provide Ford F-150 Lightning, Mustang Mach-E and E-Transit vehicles fitted with the Combined Charging System (CCS) port access to Tesla’s V3 Superchargers. Ford will equip future EVs with the NACS charge port, removing the need for an adapter for direct access to Tesla Superchargers, starting in 2025.

“Tesla has led the industry in creating a large, reliable and efficient charging system and we are pleased to be able to join forces in a way that benefits customers and overall EV adoption,” said Marin Gjaja, chief customer officer, Ford Model e. “The Tesla Supercharger network has excellent reliability and the NACS plug is smaller and lighter. Overall, this provides a superior experience for customers.”

The BlueOval Charge Network is already North America’s largest public charging network with over 84,000 chargers including access to over 10,000 public DC fast-chargers. Adding more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers creates the single largest integrated fast-charge network across the U.S. and Canada, designed to significantly reduce charge anxiety for Ford customers, with automatic routing to the nearest charger and seamless billing via FordPass.

Additionally, Ford dealers are adding roughly 1,800 public-facing fast-chargers and locations to the BlueOval Charge Network by early 2024.

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Well, that's huge. Maybe a Tesla to CCS for Fords without needing Magic Dock would be nice, too.

RTFA:

Mustang Mach-E, F-150 Lightning and E-Transit customers will be able to access the Superchargers via an adapter and software integration along with activation and payment via FordPass or Ford Pro Intelligence
This is even huger!
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2024 SR Lightning + LFP + NACS + Heat Pump + DCFC preconditioning + Next Gen Apple CarPlay (to be announced this fall).🤩

Bigger batteries aren’t the solution, availability of DCFC chargers are. Farley reiterated that yet again today.
Days like this only reaffirmed my decision to buy a SR Lightning.
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2024 SR Lightning + LFP + NACS + Heat Pump + DCFC preconditioning + Next Gen Apple CarPlay (to be announced this fall).🤩

Bigger batteries aren’t the solution, availability of DCFC chargers are. Farley reiterated that yet again today.
Days like this only reaffirmed my decision to buy a SR Lightning.
This is great news for the lightning owners. I guess with the small number of sales in comparison to the Tesla fleet the impact on super charger wait times was deemed to be acceptable.

But still with GM announcing trucks with up to 200kWh batteries, Ford definitely needs to offer something similar with its clean sheet 2024 design. More chargers are nice but range is still a big issue especially when towing.
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But still with GM announcing trucks with up to 200kWh batteries, Ford definitely needs to offer something similar with its clean sheet 2024 design. More chargers are nice but range is still a big issue especially when towing.
Don't expect the T3 until MY2025.
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Just saw this. That would be amazing.....
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Can we even park our trucks effectively at Tesla superchargers locations? The cord is very short and designed specifically for teslas. If we nose in all the way, will it reach or port? I don’t think so, at least not without parking in the wrong stall 🤷‍♂️ sure hope I’m wrong
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Can we even park our trucks effectively at Tesla superchargers locations? The cord is very short and designed specifically for teslas. If we nose in all the way, will it reach or port? I don’t think so, at least not without parking in the wrong stall 🤷‍♂️ sure hope I’m wrong
You have to park in the wrong stall or an adjacent parking place. Been there, done that.
More chargers are nice but range is still a big issue especially when towing.
EV’s aren’t currently the end all solution. Hybrids and Diesels are currently better for long distance towing. IMHO: 150+ kWh batteries are the equivalent of a 10-12 cylinder engine. Increasing battery size increases vehicle weight, affects performance, decreases load capacity, increases insurance costs, and has more potential safety issues (fires, pedestrian safety, accidents). In addition larger packs have more cells which increase failure points. GM has already had problems with the Hummer battery pack. Tesla and Ford agree that improving EV efficiency and availability of charging is the correct route. I think Ford has chosen the proper battery sizes.
2024 SR Lightning + LFP + NACS + Heat Pump + DCFC preconditioning + Next Gen Apple CarPlay (to be announced this fall).🤩

Bigger batteries aren’t the solution, availability of DCFC chargers are. Farley reiterated that yet again today.
Days like this only reaffirmed my decision to buy a SR Lightning.
The lack of heat pump might be my biggest complaint and seems like a massively short-sighted design decision. I can live with the slower DCFC max speeds (i usually get ~170kw at a 350kw stall; 250kw would be nice) and I can live with a smaller pack if we all assume the DCFC network will be built out.
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Great news! I hadn't even realized that Tesla gave out the spec for the connector at the end of last year.

Moving to one standard for all ev's should have been started years ago but I guess it's better than nothing.
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Applaud Jim Farley’s leadership in getting critical charging infrastructure more accessible.
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As new Ford EVs are introduced, it will be abandoning the CCS standard in the U.S. completely. When asked whether next-generation Ford EVs will have the CCS port, Ford replied to Green Car Reports: “Gen 2 EVs with the NACS port will have the option of charging at CCS chargers via an adapter.“
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Also, Farley’s interview mentions “gen 2 Ford EVs to have the ability to add 150 miles with 10 minutes of charging”.
Also, Farley’s interview mentions “gen 2 Ford EVs to have the ability to add 150 miles with 10 minutes of charging”.
Farley says Ford is going to provide us with the adapter!

We'll see if his staff has to walk that one back. However, for a few $hundred, giving us adapters is great for customer loyalty.
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Jim Farley mentioned they are going to ship adapters to existing owners, anyone know if that is for free or will we have to pay for the adapters?
Jim Farley mentioned they are going to ship adapters to existing owners, anyone know if that is for free or will we have to pay for the adapters?
Maybe if you sign up for a BOCN subscription?
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