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Interesting article…especially the comment about putting in parts later.

Does that mean the on-board scales may ‘installed’ later…assuming they just aren’t putting in the chips to make it work.


Ford and other automakers were doing this last year, too.

Unfortunately, a product "delete" means it is not installed or prepped for later install. The vehicle will arrive at the dealership with the product deleted with no plan for later installation. Some deleted products can be installed as dealer accessories (think retractable side boards), others can't.
 
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Ford and other automakers were doing this last year, too.

Unfortunately, a product "delete" means it is not installed or prepped for later install. The vehicle will arrive at the dealership with the product deleted with no plan for later installation. Some deleted products can be installed as dealer accessories (think retractable side boards), others can't.
As always thank you for your insight…just got hopeful with the ‘less critical chips being installed later comment’.

Still very much looking forward to the new truck (build date est 10/17)
 

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My Lariat was completed on 7/26 and was 70 miles from my dealer on 8/1. Guess what? It is still sitting there (ramp 27, Mira Loma, CA). The reason I was given was the lack of drivers to get it 70 miles. That just doesn't seem right. It makes sense that they are waiting to put in a part or parts.
 

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My Lariat was completed on 7/26 and was 70 miles from my dealer on 8/1. Guess what? It is still sitting there (ramp 27, Mira Loma, CA). The reason I was given was the lack of drivers to get it 70 miles. That just doesn't seem right. It makes sense that they are waiting to put in a part or parts.
I sure hope heads are rolling at Ford. This is one big broken supply chain, and since the same thing happened back in 2008/09 it is just unbelievable that it's happening again. No one invested in redundancy?!
 

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I sure hope heads are rolling at Ford. This is one big broken supply chain, and since the same thing happened back in 2008/09 it is just unbelievable that it's happening again. No one invested in redundancy?!
I know you are frustrated, but watch the economic news. Supply chain, chip shortages are literally everywhere. It is not just Ford......
 

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I know you are frustrated, but watch the economic news. Supply chain, chip shortages are literally everywhere. It is not just Ford......
As frustrating as it is, I agree with you. I think we have to be patient. I also think Ford, if it wants to gain and maintain leadership in this space, needs to be more
1) transparent in the shipping process and be honest with us where and why the truck is stuck in the process
2) improve the technology in the truck, app, website, and online system

The reason I say this is because the F-150 is obviously a well manufactured truck, but to catch Tesla, then compete with Honda and Toyota (when they come after the EV market) is going to need progressiveness.
 

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As frustrating as it is, I agree with you. I think we have to be patient. I also think Ford, if it wants to gain and maintain leadership in this space, needs to be more
1) transparent in the shipping process and be honest with us where and why the truck is stuck in the process
2) improve the technology in the truck, app, website, and online system

The reason I say this is because the F-150 is obviously a well manufactured truck, but to catch Tesla, then compete with Honda and Toyota (when they come after the EV market) is going to need progressiveness.
I have friends who were recently going to have a tour of the REV-C facility where the Lightning is built. The day before the tour they were informed the tour was cancelled because REV-C would be shut down the next day. When parts shortages close an entire plant, everything gets backed up.
 

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The industry laughed at Tesla back in 17/18 when Musk's insistence that they keep all their IC engineering and software in-house was delaying the Model 3 and Model Y projects that were to be the company's springboard to mass market sales. Conventional auto industry practice has been that these are almost always delivered by contractors, a carryover from the earliest introduction of computer engine management back in the 80s. Now he looks like a fortune teller, because Tesla engineers can redesign boards at speeds the auto industry can only dream of, pivoting quickly to utilise chips that are available rather than waiting close to a full model year for critical boards because the contractors design the same boards for multiple auto makers. The extra links in the chain make designing and implementing a workaround much slower.

This is the key reason why Tesla sales have gone up by double digits each year of late while parts restrictions have choked sales back for most legacy automakers.
 

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The industry laughed at Tesla back in 17/18 when Musk's insistence that they keep all their IC engineering and software in-house was delaying the Model 3 and Model Y projects that were to be the company's springboard to mass market sales. Conventional auto industry practice has been that these are almost always delivered by contractors, a carryover from the earliest introduction of computer engine management back in the 80s. Now he looks like a fortune teller, because Tesla engineers can redesign boards at speeds the auto industry can only dream of, pivoting quickly to utilise chips that are available rather than waiting close to a full model year for critical boards because the contractors design the same boards for multiple auto makers. The extra links in the chain make designing and implementing a workaround much slower.

This is the key reason why Tesla sales have gone up by double digits each year of late while parts restrictions have choked sales back for most legacy automakers.
This is the exact reason Apple went into manufacturing their own chips. They know how to use them and they have 100% control of how to design, implement, and create software for their hardware. Ford needs to do the same, and I think they are well on their way to doing this.
 

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This is the exact reason Apple went into manufacturing their own chips. They know how to use them and they have 100% control of how to design, implement, and create software for their hardware. Ford needs to do the same, and I think they are well on their way to doing this.
This is exactly my point: Namely that billion $ multinationals watched SARS, Thailand floods, etc., interrupt chip production over a decade ago . . . and some responded by taking control of their supply chain and others sat on their hands.
 
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