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Getting a Lariat with standard range battery. I already have a back up generator for my house.

It looks like the less expensive 48 amp Ford connected charge station charges the battery just as fast as the Charge Station Pro. Am I missing something if I don't get the Charge Station Pro for twice the price?
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Getting a Lariat with standard range battery. I already have a back up generator for my house.

It looks like the less expensive 48 amp Ford connected charge station charges the battery just as fast as the Charge Station Pro. Am I missing something if I don't get the Charge Station Pro for twice the price?
Thanks.
If you don't mind remembering to bring you mobile charge with you, many would simply use the mobile charger, which is free, in a NEMA 14-50 outlet in their garage. It has a mount bracket. If you don't want to have to remember, I'd go with the cheaper connected charge station, or other well reviewed J1772 plugs. (don't have to use ford.....)
 

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In your stated situation and my opinion, no. You didn't say how many miles of daily driving you expect. I'm not sure that losing 32 Amp of charging capability from 80 Amps could be equal to 48 Amp charging, unless the 80 Amp EVSE has lower charging losses. You are certainly not limited to Ford -supplied 40 or 48 Amp EVSE.
 

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If you don't mind remembering to bring you mobile charge with you, many would simply use the mobile charger, which is free, in a NEMA 14-50 outlet in their garage. It has a mount bracket. If you don't want to have to remember, I'd go with the cheaper connected charge station, or other well reviewed J1772 plugs. (don't have to use ford.....)
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In your stated situation and my opinion, no. You didn't say how many miles of daily driving you expect. I'm not sure that losing 32 Amp of charging capability from 80 Amps could be equal to 48 Amp charging, unless the 80 Amp EVSE has lower charging losses. You are certainly not limited to Ford -supplied 40 or 48 Amp EVSE.
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Have you thought about starting out with the 32 amp unit that comes with every truck? The way I figure, it will charge a 98 kWh battery from 30% to 80% in 6 hours and 40 minutes.....or from 20% to 80% in 8 hours. I don't need my battery ready to go at 11:30 pm, if I'm not leaving til morning.
I have managed fine since last June, with a 16 amp 240v unit connected to our ID.4, but it has a smaller battery (77 kWh usable).
 

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Have you thought about starting out with the 32 amp unit that comes with every truck? The way I figure, it will charge a 98 kWh battery from 30% to 80% in 6 hours and 40 minutes.....or from 20% to 80% in 8 hours. I don't need my battery ready to go at 11:30 pm, if I'm not leaving til morning.
I have managed fine since last June, with a 16 amp 240v unit connected to our ID.4, but it has a smaller battery (77 kWh usable).
Thanks. That may be the way to go.
 

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Thanks. That may be the way to go.
I think it's a great way to make an informed decision for your future needs. Depending on your home's line voltage and charging losses, you should easily be able to reliably add 40 kWh/80 miles to the battery in six hours (@ 2 kWh/mi). That's using worst case assumptions (bad case, anyway). You'll do better.
 

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If you haven't decided on your charger yet, make sure to take a look at your utility to see if they have any promotions. Mine has a promotion where they'll send you a $500 rebate if you hardwire install an authorized charger. For example, I got the Chargepoint ‎CPH50-NEMA14-50-L23 which is ~$700 normally. You will need to pay for an electrician to hardwire it, but you can actually set it up on a 60A branch so it's even more capable than your normal 14-50 outlet. I plan on leaving the mobile charger in the truck for emergencies.
 

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Any help would be appreciated here...I am getting solar installed and they are going to re-do some of my electrical.

My current breaker at our power meter is 40. They are going to upgrade that to a 100 breaker. It currently has a rating of 120, so I am assuming the 100 breaker is the highest without doing any trenching or anything major.

Also, my main electrical panel (the only one and in our living room) only has two extra slots, so I am assuming we need to add a sub panel in the garage for the solar panels (about 5.5 KW) and the CSP.

Question: What's the best way to wire the CSP in the garage? Hard wired and with 100A circuit to maintain a constant load of 80A? Is that possible? OR do I have to do something else...like 60A circuit for 48A charging OR 50A circuit with an installed NEMA 14-50 Receptacle for 40A charging?
 

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Yes, your best bet is a 100A circuit for the 80A CSP.
 

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If you haven't decided on your charger yet, make sure to take a look at your utility to see if they have any promotions. Mine has a promotion where they'll send you a $500 rebate if you hardwire install an authorized charger. For example, I got the Chargepoint ‎CPH50-NEMA14-50-L23 which is ~$700 normally. You will need to pay for an electrician to hardwire it, but you can actually set it up on a 60A branch so it's even more capable than your normal 14-50 outlet. I plan on leaving the mobile charger in the truck for emergencies.
So do you have the extended range battery?
How is the charge point charger working out for you?
 
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