[2023 lighting]

I did a build and price on the F150 platinum loaded with the 3.5 powerboost hybrid. EPA 27 mpg. That's a gas truck with a 41 hp electric motor and 1.5 kw battery (compared to 99 kw on lightning SR) total horsepower is 430 /570 torque.
This truck is $81,465 build & price.

Clearly a different truck than lighting but I think it's an often overlooked option. Especially for those long haulers, road trippers.

Question I didn't really find in articles is about the electric powertrain.
This is a plug in to charge correct, no?
What happens when the battery is expended less mpg and less hp?
Can short trips be run on electric only? Maybe not with such a small electric motor?

I think this powertrain is the future of ice vehicles. And it's only a $2500 upcharge where you're also getting more hp and a portable generator.

 

[HellBoy]

just a regular hybrid and you will never get 27mpg on it - okay maybe 'never' is an overstatement...under very specific parameters you might be able to - maybe 75F, tail wind, AC off, 60mph, cruise on, no rain & all season tires.

but I agree, if one is doing road trips, towing long distances, etc - it's a great option to consider. Under heavy load though, any fuel benefits of the hybrid are wiped out - at least based on a few Youtube reviews.

 

[208]

I did a build and price on the F150 platinum loaded with the 3.5 powerboost hybrid. EPA 27 mpg. That's a gas truck with a 41 hp electric motor and 1.5 kw battery (compared to 99 kw on lightning SR) total horsepower is 430 /570 torque.
This truck is $81,465 build & price.

Clearly a different truck than lighting but I think it's an often overlooked option. Especially for those long haulers, road trippers.

Question I didn't really find in articles is about the electric powertrain.
This is a plug in to charge correct, no?
What happens when the battery is expended less mpg and less hp?
Can short trips be run on electric only? Maybe not with such a small electric motor?

I think this powertrain is the future of ice vehicles. And it's only a $2500 upcharge where you're also getting more hp and a portable generator.

No, that is not a plug-in model, there is no electric-only mode. It is just a motor-enhanced ICE.

This is old tech (like the old Prius), and doubtful to be the future. The future of ICE in HD towing is likely a Series Hybrid, like a train locomotive. An ICE driving a generator that runs the electric motors. This is both more efficient as well as being more robust (gets rid of the transmission weak link). It is rumored to be what Ram is working on.

 

[FM_Jack]

Out of spec was able to drive for 1 electric mile in the Hybrid.

 

[jason1168tx]

My son has 13,000 miles on his and 1300 of them have been electric.

 

[HellBoy]

Data from Fuelly: 2021 Ford F-150 MPG - Actual MPG from 149 2021 Ford F-150 owners

 

[2023 lighting]

Data from Fuelly: 2021 Ford F-150 MPG - Actual MPG from 149 2021 Ford F-150 owners

Thanks good website, it shows significantly lower mpg than stated by mfg and epa.
So 2 to 3 mpg improvement over 3.5 without elecric. Or about same mpg as the 2.7 motor. But the electric assist 3.5 does boast the highest horsepower.
A 2.7 with electric assist and bigger battery could do very well. The trend with electric seems to be high horsepower. If we were targeting just efficiency and made a 200 hp truck excellent economy could be had, but who actually wants that?

 

[Voltz]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the statement above that it's a 1500 Watt battery. Is that correct?

I've probably got that in the Dewalts in my garage!

 

[2023 lighting]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the statement above that it's a 1500 Watt battery. Is that correct?

I've probably got that in the Dewalts in my garage!

Yep it's tiny but not as small as a power tool battery!
Hybrid battery size

for example a 9ah 20v tool battery is 0.18 kwh. So like 8 big power tool batteries equal one of these hybrid batteries!

 

[HellBoy]

Thanks good website, it shows significantly lower mpg than stated by mfg and epa.
So 2 to 3 mpg improvement over 3.5 without elecric. Or about same mpg as the 2.7 motor. But the electric assist 3.5 does boast the highest horsepower.
A 2.7 with electric assist and bigger battery could do very well. The trend with electric seems to be high horsepower. If we were targeting just efficiency and made a 200 hp truck excellent economy could be had, but who actually wants that?

I’ve always wondered why Ford didn’t bother to add a hybrid to the 2.7