[ChasingCoral]

The Lightning does a great job at regenerating energy, especially in Hands-on Blue Cruise --- There's no Hands-free BC in Tow Haul mode. Major hill climbs had little impact if you also took advantage of the downhill.

• Silver Spring to Hagerstown: 1.3 mi/kWh, a bit of rolling hills, no appreciable net elevation change, 61.1 mi, 48.0 kWh used, 99% brake score and driving score
• Hagerstown to Friendsville: 1.2 mi/kWh, lots of climbs and descents including the eastern continental divide, 1000' elevation gain, 104.5 mi, 84.5 kWh, 99% brake score and driving score
• Friendsville to Coopers Rock State Forest: 1.0 mi/kWh, lots of climbing with almost no descents, 700' elevation gain, 22.9 mi, 22.4 kWh, 98% brake score, 97% driving score

Edits: Average speeds should be right at 55mph. We had very little traffic and it was almost all limited access highway with the cruise set on 55. The Lightning had no problem staying within 54-56 the whole time, even up and down hills.
Average: 1.22 mi/kWh

Trailer: No Boundaries 19.8
Length 23'8"
Width 8'
Height 9'6"
UVW 3,789 lbs.

I'll add more details in subsequent posts.

 

[ChasingCoral]

When we were doing the initial planning, the Ford Navigation said we could make it to the campground in one charge. However, we would arrive with a 10% SOC. With only 110v (30v and 15v outlets), I wanted to get to camp with maximum reasonable charge. That's the reason for the two stops in Hagerstown and Friendsville.

In Hagerstown we stopped at a Walmart with an Electrify America and used some of the free 250kWh. Unfortunately the Plug & Charge wouldn't connect so I started the charger from the Ford Pass app. We also blocked a lane of travel but it was an outer lane of the Walmart lot.

The outer charger was only a 150kW and our charging started at 134kW. I could have gone into the middle where the 350s were but I would have blocked use of 3 chargers to do that. We charged to 90% SOC.

The second charge was Friendsville, MD. It was an intentional stop for two reasons:

• Friendsville is the closest DCFC to Coopers Rock State Forest, where we are camping
• It is VERY trailer friendly

I knew the lot because it is the take out for the Upper Yougheheny River kayak run. It's a big gravel lot that is nearly empty when the Upper Yough isn't releasing. That makes pulling in with a trailer simple.

The downside to the Friendsville DCFC is it is a pair of those 125kW combined Chargepoint chargers. You might think that means you get 125kW if you're alone but it doesn't. The fastest we reached was 75.2kW as we charged from 15%-90% SOC. We had planned it as a lunch stop but we also walked to the far end of town and back.

Now, at the campground, we are tapping into the 110v and trickling to get back all we can before we leave. It won't quite cover our driving around in the Lightning to go paddle boarding down in Cheat Lake and trying out a couple of local breweries.

 

[Paveitall]

Thanks for the post, just curious if anyone has tried an adaptor from the 30-50AMP camper outlets to the ford mobile charger using the 220v attachment?

 

[partyofone]

I just hooked up a trailer yesterday and was excited to try out the pro trailer control. However, it prompted me to place the stickers. I cannot find any stickers in my truck’s literature. Did you get any?

 

[ChasingCoral]

I just hooked up a trailer yesterday and was excited to try out the pro trailer control. However, it prompted me to place the stickers. I cannot find any stickers in my truck’s literature. Did you get any?

The stickers are inside the back of the manual for the pro trailer assist.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Thanks for the post, just curious if anyone has tried an adaptor from the 30-50AMP camper outlets to the ford mobile charger using the 220v attachment?

RV 50A outlets are 220v using the same NEMA 14-50 the mobile charger uses. RV 30A outlets are high power 110v outlets.

 

[partyofone]

The stickers are inside the back of the manual for the pro trailer assist.

Thank you! I found them!

 

[Paveitall]

RV 50A outlets are 220v using the same NEMA 14-50 the mobile charger uses. RV 30A outlets are high power 110v outlets.

Ok I should have been more specific. We have a camping spot that has 30 amp, 120 volt, TT-30R, 2-pole camper connectors. The mobile charger supplied with my lightning has 4 prongs, the camper outlet has 3, I purchased an adaptor and from a camper dealership but it would not power on the charger. I was wondering if anyone else has tried this.

 

[Voltz]

The mobile charger supplied with my lightning has 4 prongs, the camper outlet has 3

Answered in your other thread.

If what you're looking to do is use the TT-30R without blocking other receptacles with the EVSE, you could buy one of these and plug the Ford Mobile 3-prong into one of the 5-20R:

Amazon.com

 

[ChasingCoral]

Ok I should have been more specific. We have a camping spot that has 30 amp, 120 volt, TT-30R, 2-pole camper connectors. The mobile charger supplied with my lightning has 4 prongs, the camper outlet has 3, I purchased an adaptor and from a camper dealership but it would not power on the charger. I was wondering if anyone else has tried this.

That’s because you have to use the 110v pigtail on the Ford Mobile Charger Cord when charging on 110v. You will also need a TT-30R to 6-50 adapter.

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

if the 30amp outlet is working, and you are using a 30 to 50amp adapter, the Ford Charger 'should' work, but... if the adapter is connecting to the 'other' side of one of the power prongs, then your adapter may be supplying your Ford Charger with a switched Neutral and Power output - and EVSE don't work with that cross-linked supply.

Another way around this would be to use your Ford Charger's 120v adapter and just plug into the campground's 20amp outlet - which is ultimately going to give you the same charging speed.

 

[ChasingCoral]

if the 30amp outlet is working, and you are using a 30 to 50amp adapter, the Ford Charger 'should' work, but... if the adapter is connecting to the 'other' side of one of the power prongs, then your adapter may be supplying your Ford Charger with a switched Neutral and Power output - and EVSE don't work with that cross-linked supply.

Another way around this would be to use your Ford Charger's 120v adapter and just plug into the campground's 20amp outlet - which is ultimately going to give you the same charging speed.

Nope. RV 30A outlets are typically 30A 110v.

The funny thing about most 50A RVs is they don’t really use 240v. Most split the 50A 220v into a pair of 110v circuits. There are exceptions, of course but RV appliances usually stick with 110v appliances.

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

don't confuse a 50amp 240v outlet at a campground as not being '240v' ... it is, just like at your home, or anywhere else.

yes, many motorhomes and 50amp RV use a special Breaker Panel in the RV that simply keeps the two hot lines separate, for 120v power to all internal breakers. Some motorhomes, though, DO make use of the 240v power for clothes dryers, induction cooktops, etc...

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

Nope. RV 30A outlets are typically 30A 110v...

your point is noted: the Ford Charger, if using the 50amp adapter, will NOT work with 120v power, which is what a 30amp campground outlet is - it must be 240v power...
so, yes, the only option to use a 30amp 120v campground outlet is to use the 120v adapter and another 30a to 120v RV adapter, although just plugging into the campground 20amp outlet is easier. Either one is only going to provide 12amps of power, since the Ford Charger will only use up to 12amps no matter.

 

[Fishstyx]

The Lightning does a great job at regenerating energy, especially in Hands-on Blue Cruise --- There's no Hands-free BC in Tow Haul mode. Major hill climbs had little impact if you also took advantage of the downhill.

• Silver Spring to Hagerstown: 1.3 mi/kWh, a bit of rolling hills, no appreciable net elevation change, 61.1 mi, 48.0 kWh used, 99% brake score and driving score
• Hagerstown to Friendsville: 1.2 mi/kWh, lots of climbs and descents including the eastern continental divide, 1000' elevation gain, 104.5 mi, 84.5 kWh, 99% brake score and driving score
• Friendsville to Coopers Rock State Forest: 1.0 mi/kWh, lots of climbing with almost no descents, 700' elevation gain, 22.9 mi, 22.4 kWh, 98% brake score, 97% driving score

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Trailer: No Boundaries 19.8
Length 23'8"
Width 8'
Height 9'6"
UVW 3,789 lbs.

I'll add more details in subsequent posts.

Can you provide your average speed for each leg? I'm going to to out on a limb and assume it's in the 45mph range.

I'm surprised those 'My EV Driving" summaries don't include average speed or at least trip time.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Can you provide your average speed for each leg? I'm going to to out on a limb and assume it's in the 45mph range.

Nope. We had very little traffic and it was almost all limited access highway with the cruise set on 55. The Lightning had no problem staying within 54-56 the whole time.

I did slow down a little behind some trucks but then the cruise accelerated to get back to 55 when I jumped around them.

By the way, you don't get Blue Cruse Hand Free (BCHF) when in tow haul mode, so it was all Blue Cruise Hands On.

 

[TwoFrom93449]

We stuck with a trailer with 30amp service so that we could use the 50amp service to charge our Lightning. I am not following all the discussion, is the issue that the pedestal at the RV site not able to provide power for both the 50amp and 30amp plugs?

 

[ChasingCoral]

Return trip:

• Coopers Rock State Forest to Friendsville, MD: 1.5 mi/kWh, lots of climbing with almost no descents, 700' elevation drop, 23.1 mi, 15.3 kWh, 99% brake score, 98% driving score
• Friendsville to Hancock, MD: 1.4 mi/kWh, lots of climbs and descents including the eastern continental divide, 1050' elevation drop, 77.5 mi, 57 kWh, 99% brake score, 98% driving score
• Hancock to Silver Spring, MD: ~1.3 mi/kWh, a bit of rolling hills, no appreciable net elevation change, ~89 mi, ~69 kWh used (My EV Driving randomly decided not to report this one)

Average speeds should be right at 55mph.

Edit: Average efficiency 1.34 mi/kWh

We chose Hancock for the stop coming home because it is another station that is very trailer friendly. (Hancock Primitive Park, 2 shared 125kW Chargpoints like Friendsville)

 

[ChasingCoral]

Final stats from both directions, driving 55mph

• Silver Spring to Hagerstown: 1.3 mi/kWh, a bit of rolling hills, no appreciable net elevation change, 61.1 mi, 48.0 kWh used, 99% brake score and driving score
• Hagerstown to Friendsville: 1.2 mi/kWh, lots of climbs and descents including the eastern continental divide, 1000' elevation gain, 104.5 mi, 84.5 kWh, 99% brake score and driving score
• Friendsville to Coopers Rock State Forest: 1.0 mi/kWh, lots of climbing with almost no descents, 700' elevation gain, 22.9 mi, 22.4 kWh, 98% brake score, 97% driving score
• Coopers Rock State Forest to Friendsville, MD: 1.5 mi/kWh, lots of climbing with almost no descents, 700' elevation drop, 23.1 mi, 15.3 kWh, 99% brake score, 98% driving score
• Friendsville to Hancock, MD: 1.4 mi/kWh, lots of climbs and descents including the eastern continental divide, 1050' elevation drop, 77.5 mi, 57 kWh, 99% brake score, 98% driving score
• Hancock to Silver Spring, MD: ~1.3 mi/kWh, a bit of rolling hills, no appreciable net elevation change, ~89 mi, ~69 kWh used (My EV Driving randomly decided not to report this one)

378 miles, 296 kWh, ~1.28 mi/kWh

 

[Tourer]

Hi,

Thank you for sharing.

Are you using a standard range battery ?