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During my purchase negotiations the dealer offered me the Ford extended warranty on my Lightning. She said normally $6000 for 100,000 mile coverage, however because we’re such good friends they could offer it to me at only $4000.
I had a professor in college that taught you should only buy insurance for things you can’t financially cover. He used the example of if the extended warranty on a space heater at Home Depot or a broken screen on your cell phone won’t place you in financial distress then decline coverage. I declined the warranty offer but I’m curious what warrantees others have been offered and at what price?
 

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I added the extended warranty but it basically worked out to be just $3,000 over 75 months and I felt like with a brand new model (even though based off gas f150) a lot of things had to be changed to make it electric and one small failure could cost several thousand dollars once outside the standard warranty (which I think was like 36 months/36,000 miles).
 

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I am waiting to see what happens. I was told I can get extended coverage within the 3 year 36k. The dealer makes a ton of money on the extended warranty. I subscribe to joinyaa.com YouTuber. They are full of car facts and offer extended warranties. They say use them to beat the dealer down. Or just buy it from them.
 

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Floodfordesp.com is where I bought extended warranties for my 2020 Raptor and now my 2021 Bronco. They have the Lightning listed, here are screen shots of pricing. $4000 is highway robbery, the $50 deductible 72 month/100K plan is only $1150. I gamble that I’ll have more than three but less than six warranty events, so the $50 deductible is my sweet spot. I do recommend the key and LED add ons. I don’t know how long I’ll keep my Lightning once the competition is available (early reservations on the Tesla and Silverado), but the warranty should help with resale on a vehicle like this. If I think I can live with this truck‘s limitations of the SR battery then the 8 year 150K would make sense and drive this one into the ground.

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Floodfordesp.com is where I bought extended warranties for my 2020 Raptor and now my 2021 Bronco. They have the Lightning listed, here are screen shots of pricing. $4000 is highway robbery, the $50 deductible 72 month/100K plan is only $1150. I gamble that I’ll have more than three but less than six warranty events, so the $50 deductible is my sweet spot. I do recommend the key and LED add ons. I don’t know how long I’ll keep my Lightning once the competition is available (early reservations on the Tesla and Silverado), but the warranty should help with resale on a vehicle like this. If I think I can live with this truck‘s limitations of the SR battery then the 8 year 150K would make sense and drive this one into the ground. View attachment 3282 View attachment 3283
Thank you for this angle. Going to buy our Lightning tomorrow.
 

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Back in my tech days we had a class on equipment failure and it was very interesting to note the failure rates of mechanical vs electronic devices. The curve profile of the failure rates between the two is very interesting. Mechanical failures slowly increase over time and then peak abruptly after the mechanical devices engineered life span is reached. However, Electronic device failures increase rapidly and peak very early in the life span of the device and then the failure rates decline over time. The lesson here is that most electronic devices that fail will fail due to manufacturing or design issues but, they fail early. Of course it is always a bet when purchasing an extended warranty but my experience is that mechanical failures are way more common than electronic failures. Coincidently my brother was a big wig in a very large retail chain and back when they started offering extended warranties I asked if the warranties were worth the money. He replied, "to the retailer they are". The retail chain makes over 99% profit on the extended warranties because failures, if they occur, usually occur before the manufacturing warranty period ends and the manufacturer pays for the replacement/repair of the item, not the retailer. There is always of course the "sleep factor" to consider. If the extended warrantee gives you comfort and helps you sleep better, by all means buy it.
 

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I picked up my 2023 Lariat ER on 12/29/2022.
I bought the Premiumcare Coverage and Dealership charged me $2240. For 6 years 100000 miles.
After I Reading this General Discussion Forum yesterday I called my Dealership and told them to Cancel my Warranty. Now I am going to buy from some another company.Please advice me what is the best place and price to get warranty.Thanks
 

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Ford's warranty on the Lightning:
  • Electric Vehicle Component Coverage: Eight years or 100,000 miles (whichever occurs first), with retention of 70% or more of the original High Voltage Battery capacity over that period
  • Powertrain coverage: Five years/60,000 miles
  • Bumper to Bumper coverage: Three years/36,000 miles
  • Safety Restraint System coverage: 5 years/60,000 miles
  • Corrosion coverage (Perforation only): 5 years/unlimited miles
  • Electric Vehicle Roadside Assistance Program: 5 years/60,000 miles
I took delivery on my ER Lariat on December 20th and turned down all offers of extended warranties. 3 year bumper to bumper seems pretty self explanatory. I asked the closer if there were any exclusions and he read through the warranty and said, "No, I don't see anything that's excluded. Bumper to bumper means everything."

I know from past experiences buying Fords that I will be inundated with offers from Ford to buy an extended warranty and those offers will keep coming for quite some time. After dropping $89 grand on a vehicle, I wasn't too keen to add thousands more to the ticket.
 

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Ford's warranty on the Lightning:
  • Electric Vehicle Component Coverage: Eight years or 100,000 miles (whichever occurs first), with retention of 70% or more of the original High Voltage Battery capacity over that period
  • Powertrain coverage: Five years/60,000 miles
  • Bumper to Bumper coverage: Three years/36,000 miles
  • Safety Restraint System coverage: 5 years/60,000 miles
  • Corrosion coverage (Perforation only): 5 years/unlimited miles
  • Electric Vehicle Roadside Assistance Program: 5 years/60,000 miles
I took delivery on my ER Lariat on December 20th and turned down all offers of extended warranties. 3 year bumper to bumper seems pretty self explanatory. I asked the closer if there were any exclusions and he read through the warranty and said, "No, I don't see anything that's excluded. Bumper to bumper means everything."

I know from past experiences buying Fords that I will be inundated with offers from Ford to buy an extended warranty and those offers will keep coming for quite some time. After dropping $89 grand on a vehicle, I wasn't too keen to add thousands more to the ticket.
That is my thinking as well. I've always known that extended warranties always benefit the company offering them. I think the 'piece of mind' for insurance (extended warranty) here is that this is a newer technology. Also, some may believe that their truck is going to have some issues past the normal warranty period. I bought this vehicle because I trust the F-150 brand and follow the data - most vehicles, if they have problems crap out early and show signs early of problems. Right now, I am very pleased with the quality and workmanship. I have owned an F-150 before and I am comfortable with it. We will see... I may change that opinion as I drive the vehicle more.
 

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There's a lot of information swirling around in this thread.

1. I do believe the ESP explicitly excludes the traction battery. Verify that before buying a plan for extra protection beyond the federal limit. Also, I do believe CA's traction battery is longer than the standard federal one (may be 10/100K).

2. While extended warranties do tend to benefit the companies selling them, that information shouldn't be applied entirely to this context without question. One, most of those extended warranties are sold (and backed) via 3rd party whereas the ESP is an extended warranty from the manufacturer. It may or may not make a huge difference in one's thinking, but it does bear mentioning that extended warranty companies sell warranties (and therefore have incentive not to honor them if/when they can) whereas Ford sells vehicles (and therefore has incentives to keep them running in operable shape). Secondly, even if it's true that extended warranties, in the aggregate, tend to make more money for the seller than the buyer it's also true that specific circumstances can tilt that balance the other way. For example, we're dealing with a new vehicle that heavily relies on a tremendous amount of integrated electronics. Just because an ESP doesn't make economic sense for a Fiesta doesn't mean they won't make sense for a Lightning.

3. That electronics bit in #2 is really important. In this specific scenario, we're looking at any single repair that would greatly exceed the price of the warranty. I paid $1,350 for an 8/100K ESP and all I "need" for it to pay for itself is the big screen in the middle of the dash controlling the entire vehicle to take a dump. I could go down the list but the point is it won't take much and it won't take it happening very often to break even or better.

4. The point about mean failure times of electronic vs. mechanicals is well-received. That said, we don't know what that really means. If it means most electronics are likely to fail within the first year that's one thing, but if it means they tend to fail in year 5 that's a different matter entirely. In my personal experience electronics either fail right when I bring them home (they're defective) or they fail sometime around/within a decade (failed caps, etc.).

5. Certainly Ford's actuaries have built these programs to maximize revenue. We don't, however, know where they intend to derive their revenue. It could be a loss leader to get you to spring for the relatively useless tire/wheel package. Or maybe it's part of getting customers into the dealerships. If the logic that they wouldn't sell them if they didn't make money off them is reasonable, then it should also be reasonable to acknowledge if they plans were entirely useless no one would buy them.
 

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There's a lot of information swirling around in this thread.

1. I do believe the ESP explicitly excludes the traction battery. Verify that before buying a plan for extra protection beyond the federal limit. Also, I do believe CA's traction battery is longer than the standard federal one (may be 10/100K).

2. While extended warranties do tend to benefit the companies selling them, that information shouldn't be applied entirely to this context without question. One, most of those extended warranties are sold (and backed) via 3rd party whereas the ESP is an extended warranty from the manufacturer. It may or may not make a huge difference in one's thinking, but it does bear mentioning that extended warranty companies sell warranties (and therefore have incentive not to honor them if/when they can) whereas Ford sells vehicles (and therefore has incentives to keep them running in operable shape). Secondly, even if it's true that extended warranties, in the aggregate, tend to make more money for the seller than the buyer it's also true that specific circumstances can tilt that balance the other way. For example, we're dealing with a new vehicle that heavily relies on a tremendous amount of integrated electronics. Just because an ESP doesn't make economic sense for a Fiesta doesn't mean they won't make sense for a Lightning.

3. That electronics bit in #2 is really important. In this specific scenario, we're looking at any single repair that would greatly exceed the price of the warranty. I paid $1,350 for an 8/100K ESP and all I "need" for it to pay for itself is the big screen in the middle of the dash controlling the entire vehicle to take a dump. I could go down the list but the point is it won't take much and it won't take it happening very often to break even or better.

4. The point about mean failure times of electronic vs. mechanicals is well-received. That said, we don't know what that really means. If it means most electronics are likely to fail within the first year that's one thing, but if it means they tend to fail in year 5 that's a different matter entirely. In my personal experience electronics either fail right when I bring them home (they're defective) or they fail sometime around/within a decade (failed caps, etc.).

5. Certainly Ford's actuaries have built these programs to maximize revenue. We don't, however, know where they intend to derive their revenue. It could be a loss leader to get you to spring for the relatively useless tire/wheel package. Or maybe it's part of getting customers into the dealerships. If the logic that they wouldn't sell them if they didn't make money off them is reasonable, then it should also be reasonable to acknowledge if they plans were entirely useless no one would buy them.
Like any insurance it is a question of cost and likelihood. Most ICE vehicles are reliable enough so that regular wear and tear would not cause you to replace an engine or the transmission before 100k miles, but obviously there are exceptions.
In the case of the Lightning you are really protecting yourself from failure in one of the few mechanical components in the car like the battery cooling system which are unknowns in terms of reliability after 6 years.
The central console failing is not something I would worry too much about, replacing that in a Tesla costs about $1500 so you are basically assuming it will fail twice within 4-10 years which is highly unlikely.
 
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