[ruthcalhoun]

I have had a Extended Range Lariat for a couple months. I usually keep it charged 70-90% but have never seen the estimated range go above 210. I'm honestly wondering if I even actually have an Extended Range vehicle. Is there a way I can check, as a non-technical non-car expert?

 

[R.I.P.]

I have had a Extended Range Lariat for a couple months. I usually keep it charged 70-90% but have never seen the estimated range go above 210. I'm honestly wondering if I even actually have an Extended Range vehicle. Is there a way I can check, as a non-technical non-car expert?

Math. Count the watt/hrs used to 50%, then double that number for approximate pack size. 100 ish kw/hrs for the SR, 130 for the ER.

 

[THEsocalledfan]

I have had a Extended Range Lariat for a couple months. I usually keep it charged 70-90% but have never seen the estimated range go above 210. I'm honestly wondering if I even actually have an Extended Range vehicle. Is there a way I can check, as a non-technical non-car expert?

Read the guess o meter post, too. (RIP is right) Critical thing to follow is mi/kwh. Like he said, you should have about 130 kwh when fully charged. Do that math that way based on the driving you are planning. Learn the mi/kwh you need to get to the places you are planning. Note, winter weather will lower mi/kwh in any EV. It is their biggest problem, and drives me crazy that our "fearless leaders" don't seem to understand this as it is never mentioned whenever they push EVs.

 

[FM_Jack]

Let's talk cold weather range performance

Until it doesn't. Most heat pumps really struggle under about 15-20 degrees. Makes a difference in between, but that technology has a little ways to go. Please no on the heat pump for this reason. That would be a disaster of not understanding their customers.

www.lightningowners.com

 

[ChasingCoral]

I have had a Extended Range Lariat for a couple months. I usually keep it charged 70-90% but have never seen the estimated range go above 210. I'm honestly wondering if I even actually have an Extended Range vehicle. Is there a way I can check, as a non-technical non-car expert?

It's been a slow week, I guess. You are only the second person to start a new thread on this topic this week.

Start reading here: Don't trust the GOM! Best ways to calculate how far...

Then go here: Losing range in cold weather or something wrong?

 

[Voltz]

The problem that many fail to realize is the method the EPA uses to test EV range. It's done to work as a reference number to use across many platforms of many manufactureers. Here's the way EPA explains it:

Testing at the National Vehicle and Fuel Emissions Laboratory | US EPA

EPA's National Vehicle and Fuel Emissions Laboratory (NVFEL) tests new cars and trucks sold in the U.S. to ensure that they comply with federal emissions and fuel economy standards.

www.epa.gov

Here's the regulation that they use to come up with a combined highway/city range estimate:

Federal Register :: Request Access

 

[FM_Jack]

It's been a slow week, I guess. You are only the second person to start a new thread on this topic this week.

Start reading here: Don't trust the GOM! Best ways to calculate how far...

Then go here: Losing range in cold weather or something wrong?

I'd also add don't trust the estimated % left when you use the navigation from the manufacturer.

 

[THEsocalledfan]

I'd also add don't trust the estimated % left when you use the navigation from the manufacturer.

Can you elaborate on that? About to take delivery and figured I'd be using percent left of battery to estimate remaining kwh times my mi/kwh to estimate real range.

 

[FM_Jack]

Can you elaborate on that? About to take delivery and figured I'd be using percent left of battery to estimate remaining kwh times my mi/kwh to estimate real range.

I posted it in the cold weather post. I was doing a 200 mile trip over Thanksgiving and starting at 100% I put in the destination into Ford's navigation. It said my % remaining when I arrived at the end of my trip would be 17%. However, I didn't use that to navigate home, I used google's. But randomly I would initiate Ford's system again to see what it said and as I got closer to home the % remaining would be more than what was initially listed.

So 17% at the start (and I'm forgetting the exact value) but it was above 30% by the time I got to charger that was maybe 40-50 mile from home. This is similar to when using Google's navigation and it says "you'll arrive at X time" and you get there before that time. I never changed from the route I was going to do and it listed. So whatever variables it was using to "guess" my arrival battery %, I did better than what it expected.

 

[THEsocalledfan]

I posted it in the cold weather post. I was doing a 200 mile trip over Thanksgiving and starting at 100% I put in the destination into Ford's navigation. It said my % remaining when I arrived at the end of my trip would be 17%. However, I didn't use that to navigate home, I used google's. But randomly I would initiate Ford's system again to see what it said and as I got closer to home the % remaining would be more than what was initially listed.

So 17% at the start (and I'm forgetting the exact value) but it was above 30% by the time I got to charger that was maybe 40-50 mile from home. This is similar to when using Google's navigation and it says "you'll arrive at X time" and you get there before that time. I never changed from the route I was going to do and it listed. So whatever variables it was using to "guess" my arrival battery %, I did better than what it expected.

Got it; so point was not trusting percent remaining at end of trip via guess o meter. For me, following actual remaining KWH should be fine then.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Got it; so point was not trusting percent remaining at end of trip via guess o meter. For me, following actual remaining KWH should be fine then.

Correct.

 

[lightning.vs.modelx]

To see the Ford's advertised range, charge your Lightning to 100% then reset your driving history on the vehicle’s touch screen: Settings/Charge/EV driving history (press and hold to reset). Before resetting, if you want to see your driving history, go to the FordPass App and select Vehicle/My EV driving.

I had the same full range concern since my extended range Lariat showed only 270 miles (instead of 320) at 100% charge. I spoke with Ford and the agent explained that my driving history is part of the range calculation. Since I recently had a 200 mile highway trip at ~72 MPH, my range at 100% charge was (predicted to be) 270 miles instead of the expected 320. To prove this, I went into the Ford's touch screen (not Ford Pass app) and reset EV driving history. My Lariat was 100% charged and the range suddenly changed to 320 miles. Tesla does not include your driving history in the range. At 100% charge, my Tesla MX always shows the full range of 328 miles. (Perhaps there is a setting to alter that, I have not looked.) Obviously, I get ~25% less than that in the real world.

I hope this helps.

Karl

 

[Biobob]

Math. Count the watt/hrs used to 50%, then double that number for approximate pack size. 100 ish kw/hrs for the SR, 130 for the ER.

I have a extended range Lar

I have had a Extended Range Lariat for a couple months. I usually keep it charged 70-90% but have never seen the estimated range go above 210. I'm honestly wondering if I even actually have an Extended Range vehicle. Is there a way I can check, as a non-technical non-car expert?

I have the extended range Lariat and I love it.
I don’t know what is going on with your truck but my truck at 90% has a estimated range of 276 or higher
maybe it’s the temperature here in California but this
is with a outside temperature of 35 to 40 degrees.
Hope you find what’s going on with your truck.
RA

 

[jefrank]

My Lariat ER shows 190ish at 90% but I've done far more highway driving at 75mph than I have local driving at 35mph and it's cold here in Michigan so the seats and steering wheel are on and the cabin temp is set to 68 with auto set to 3. Considering that I get 1.4-1.8 miles per kwH on the highway with this set up, the math works out just fine.

Charged it to 100% last night since I knew I had to make a 160 mile r/t today and wanted some extra safety margin. GOM showed about 220 this morning. Nav said I'd have 64% when I got to my destination, turned out to be 66%. Did a couple things around town before setting the nav for the trip home and it said I'd arrive with 26%, actual was 30%. Plugged it in after getting home, but charge settings won't give it juice until 7pm when the rates drop. Popped out to the chiro at 4:30 with that 30% still in place and got home from the 28 mile r/t with around 20% (forgot to check when I shut it down).

Bottom line is just know how you drive and where you're going to be and you'll be fine. I've only charged away from home once and that was just to prove that EA was really going give me free juice and see if I could wander Harbor Freight long enough to charge it up to 80% before I got bored... it was done before I was.