[2023 lighting]

Your state probably already has a tax specifically for electric vehicles. Ohio for example has a tax of $225/year for BEVs. A paltry sum when you consider what road tax would be on equivalent gasoline.

For example an ICE driver getting 19mpg driving 24,000 mile/yr would use 1263 gallons of gasoline. Ohio tax per gallon is $0.385 and Federal is $0.184 for a total $0.569/gallon. So.. the ICE driver pays $718.65/year in road tax.

Many states are looking to raise BEV tax. The main reason? The cost of building and maintaining roads is going up as rapidly as the price of oil. States spend nearly 80% of their transportation budget on pavement. What is the most expensive ingredient in pavement? Bitumin or oil (PG64-22 predominantly in the midwest).

Consider maintaining your home driveway, it costs thousands to replace it when needed. Roads require much more substantial pavement to hold up to truck traffic, often 12" or more thick. And your typical 6 lane freeway is 60' wide in each direction and of course endless miles long. That is a LOT of pavement to maintain. And the desire is to maintain it in a smooth condition which means more frequent paving.

So do you think BEV user taxes should be increased to more align with gasoline user taxes? Should they be a flat fee or should it be use based? Should the tax remain the same or even be eliminated?

 

[taxmanhog]

Weight . wheels & mileage factor for all motor vehicles regardless of propulsion method or body

Cars, passenger trucks, motorcycles, full spectrum of commercial trucks, all pay based on these factors.

Collect the tax monthly or quarterly, self reporting, with annual validation & balancing after the safety inspection mileage check.

The process accommodates old and new vehicles, state level [DMV or EZPASS agency] can manage it.

 

[Voltz]

Virginia has a mileage based plan coming online July 1st:

Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles

Welcome to the official site of the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles, with quick access to driver and vehicle online transactions and information.

www.dmv.virginia.gov

Utah, Oregon, Washington, and Virginia are using Emovis. The device uses (hogs) the OBD II port.

Road User Charging – Funding the future

Market ready, end-to-end Emovis Road User Charging Solution uses open standards, cloud analytics & mobile technology, to provide smarter road charging solutions

www.emovis.com

 

[ChasingCoral]

Virginia has a mileage based plan coming online July 1st:

Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles

Welcome to the official site of the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles, with quick access to driver and vehicle online transactions and information.

www.dmv.virginia.gov

Utah, Oregon, Washington, and Virginia are using Emovis. The device uses (hogs) the OBD II port.

Road User Charging – Funding the future

Market ready, end-to-end Emovis Road User Charging Solution uses open standards, cloud analytics & mobile technology, to provide smarter road charging solutions

www.emovis.com

Not really fond of a device that alllows the state to monitor my location at any time. It's not that I'm hiding anything, it's just way too big brother. At least with cell phones accessing the data requires a warrant. These devices could allow for continuous or on-demand monitoring by the state.

 

[VTbuckeye]

It may look cheap when driving 24k miles in a vehicle getting 19mog, but what about the economy car that gets 38mpg and further what if you only drive 7k miles? I know that we are not a typical family, but we have three vehicles. EV goes about 8k per year, phev maybe 5k per year (more when we travel long distance to visit family in Ohio) and pickup that goes about 2k per year. In Ohio the EV and phev would cost 400+ in extra fees for 13k miles. The phev would continue to pay gas tax. I would welcome a mileage based fee, but make it the same fee for all road users. Possibly adjusted for gvwr (lighter cars pay less per mile). In Vermont we have annual vehicle inspections, so a tax could be assessed based on the difference between current odometer reading and last recorded reading. This would not be an invasion of privacy. It does not tell big brother where you were, just let's them know how far you have driven in the past year. Next year we will have two EVs and a phev with no more than 20k miles driven between the three.

 

[2023 lighting]

Flat fees can really add up for owners of multiple vehicles. I have annual plate fees for four trailers and two trucks and I'm the only driver.

I like the monthly estimate and annual inspection method for mileage based fee. Though it makes odometer fraud much more profitable. Agree vehicle weight should factor in.

As far as an in vehicle device of some sort, no thank you. Of course you know your new lighting will be recording your every move with the technology package. Ford will know when you move it from driveway to garage. Is a warrant needed by police- probably. But they could be using blanket warrants, every f150 in this 5 block radius fir the past two weeks.