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For those new to BEVs, here's a useful resource from Ford.
 

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Does anyone know the pack voltage for the Lightning? The Mach-e is 450V. Wondering if they stepped up to 600 or 800V in the Lightning. Also wondering what the DCFC voltage and max current are.
Ford is sticking with the same architecture for the Mach E, eTransit, and Lightning. All are in the 400V range and nominally have a 150kW maximum charging rate.

Of course, each has its own charging curves, battery makers are shifting from LG Chem for the Mach E (and eTransit I believe) to SK Innovations for the Lightning. However, the motors are using the same basic architecture and they are using similar systems through all three model lines. The eTransit, by the way, is built on a Mach E platform.

The Lightning will have the most advanced systems as it is a newer platform, newer battery design, and the VanDyke plant is building the motors with some improvements they learned from the Mach E.
 
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Info from Mach-E owners manual on battery charging. Did not know about the 2-3 hour wait after driving and the reduced lifespan of the standard range battery pack when DC charging. Now they tell me.

"PRESERVING YOUR HIGH VOLTAGE BATTERY
When using the battery at a low state of charge, your vehicle could start disabling accessory features to protect battery life. If your vehicle reaches a 0% state of charge, recharge your vehicle as soon as possible.
In everyday use it is acceptable to use the full state of charge window, however there are a few best practices we recommend in order to maintain the health and life of your battery.
Overnight Charging
You can increase the longevity and performance of your high voltage battery by using the charge scheduling and departure and comfort settings on your touchscreen or in the FordPass app. With Charge Scheduling you can improve the high voltage battery's longevity by delaying the start of charging and setting a maximum charging limit. It is recommended to set your preferred charging times to be at least 2-3 hours after your typical plug in time. This allows the battery to cool before charging begins.
Additionally, setting the maximum charge level to be less than 100% for everyday usage reduces strain on the battery. You can improve driving range and performance by scheduling departure times and cabin comfort level with the Departure and Comfort feature. This will not only warm or cool the cabin but also
condition the battery to ensure best driving range and performance by the set departure time.
DC Charging
Frequent use of DC charging could result in reducing your battery's efficiency and lifespan. This is more pronounced on the standard range battery pack versus the extended range battery pack. See What is DC Charging (page 159).
Storage Temperature
Storing your vehicle in temperatures between 32°F (0°C) and 113°F (45°C) is the most beneficial for the high voltage battery. At temperatures below 39°F (4°C) your vehicle should be plugged in to maintain battery performance and maximize driving range.
p157 2021 Mustang Mach-E (CGW) Canada/United States of America, Vehicles Built From: 07-06-2021, enUSA, Edition date: 202104, First-Printing
High Voltage Battery - Storage State of Charge
You can increase the battery life by maintaining your state of charge below 100%. When you park your vehicle for an extended period of 30 days or more, we recommend your battery be at anapproximately 50% state of charge. Storing your vehicle's high voltage battery at higher states of charge is less favorable than storing at lower states of charge. Note: To achieve this state of charge for storage, you can drive your vehicle down to
50% and set a charge limit for your location. See Setting the Charging Schedule and Preferences (page 174)."
 

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Overnight Charging
You can increase the longevity and performance of your high voltage battery by using the charge scheduling and departure and comfort settings on your touchscreen or in the FordPass app. With Charge Scheduling you can improve the high voltage battery's longevity by delaying the start of charging and setting a maximum charging limit. It is recommended to set your preferred charging times to be at least 2-3 hours after your typical plug in time. This allows the battery to cool before charging begins.
Additionally, setting the maximum charge level to be less than 100% for everyday usage reduces strain on the battery. You can improve driving range and performance by scheduling departure times and cabin comfort level with the Departure and Comfort feature. This will not only warm or cool the cabin but also
condition the battery to ensure best driving range and performance by the set departure time.
In regards to the app, it is not great. I have it set to 80% and last night it charged to 100% after I stopped it when I realized it was going to 100%. So their preference would be nice if it actually followed what you set.
 
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In regards to the app, it is not great. I have it set to 80% and last night it charged to 100% after I stopped it when I realized it was going to 100%. So their preference would be nice if it actually followed what you set.
The Mach E often loses or ignores its charging limit right after getting an over the site update. Did yours just get an update?
 

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The Mach E often loses or ignores its charging limit right after getting an over the site update. Did yours just get an update?
Yes, that was I complained about last week. Everything was set back up again and was working until it did not.
 
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Yes, that was I complained about last week. Everything was set back up again and was working until it did not.
Is yours a job 1 car? If so they are getting a large series of OTAs.
 

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Is yours a job 1 car? If so they are getting a large series of OTAs.
How would I determine that? VIN check of some kind?

but in the end, my point is, if the battery needs to be taken care of and you do what your supposed to - it is very frustrating when those constraints aren't absolute and get overwritten.
 
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Hope they fix this kind of stuff soon. No excuses for writing over user preferences.
 
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How would I determine that? VIN check of some kind?

but in the end, my point is, if the battery needs to be taken care of and you do what your supposed to - it is very frustrating when those constraints aren't absolute and get overwritten.
Job 1: through July 7, 2021. It's the series of Power Ups leading to Blue Cruise.
 

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Hope they fix this kind of stuff soon. No excuses for writing over user preferences.
In most cases the user preferences aren't being over-written, they being ignored once.

An occasional 100% charge at L1/L2 causes no significant harm to the battery, especially if the car is driven that day. The only real concern is sitting long-term at 100%.
 
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Ok, then mine falls into that category.
You can find the full list of exiting PowerUps at
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With the Lightning being my first EV, waiting to charge at a charging hub is on my anxiety / annoyance list.. Especially on road trips...
 

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Despite 4 major road trips, I've only waited a few minutes for a charger and that was at a station where we knew 2 of the 4 were down.
 
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In most cases the user preferences aren't being over-written, they being ignored once.

An occasional 100% charge at L1/L2 causes no significant harm to the battery, especially if the car is driven that day. The only real concern is sitting long-term at 100%.
I get that, but there is no excuse for user settings to be ignored or overwritten. Don't cover for Ford. They have to up this game.
 
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