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Nice, thanks for posting it here. So about that 18 month contract where you can only sell it to the dealer. Is that going to be standard or up to the dealer? I assume you can’t refuse to sign it. So if something happens during that period and I’m forced to sell it, the dealer gets to basically name his buying price:confused:
 

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Nice, thanks for posting it here. So about that 18 month contract where you can only sell it to the dealer. Is that going to be standard or up to the dealer? I assume you can’t refuse to sign it. So if something happens during that period and I’m forced to sell it, the dealer gets to basically name his buying price:confused:
I think with “right to first refusal” or whatever these contracts are called, it essentially means the seller has to give the other party the first chance to buy whatever is being sold, but I believe the price is still determined by the seller. If the price is too high, then the other party refuses the offer but the point is that they get the first chance to buy it back. Now there may be some underwriting that says a “fair market value” has to be applied but I’m not sure on that part.
 

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Nice, thanks for posting it here. So about that 18 month contract where you can only sell it to the dealer. Is that going to be standard or up to the dealer? I assume you can’t refuse to sign it. So if something happens during that period and I’m forced to sell it, the dealer gets to basically name his buying price:confused:
I think with “right to first refusal” or whatever these contracts are called, it essentially means the seller has to give the other party the first chance to buy whatever is being sold, but I believe the price is still determined by the seller. If the price is too high, then the other party refuses the offer but the point is that they get the first chance to buy it back. Now there may be some underwriting that says a “fair market value” has to be applied but I’m not sure on that part.
 

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I don't mind a right to first refusal. It would be unacceptable if circumstances changed (loss of employment, severe health issue...) and you couldn't liquidate this asset that is not only easily converted to cash, but also a direct cash drain. If hurting for cash, particularly in the next year with supplies the way they are, selling the lightning for profit is probably the best financial move one could make.
 

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I think with “right to first refusal” or whatever these contracts are called, it essentially means the seller has to give the other party the first chance to buy whatever is being sold, but I believe the price is still determined by the seller. If the price is too high, then the other party refuses the offer but the point is that they get the first chance to buy it back. Now there may be some underwriting that says a “fair market value” has to be applied but I’m not sure on that part.
Thanks for the info. That makes more sense
 

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Nice, thanks for posting it here. So about that 18 month contract where you can only sell it to the dealer. Is that going to be standard or up to the dealer? I assume you can’t refuse to sign it. So if something happens during that period and I’m forced to sell it, the dealer gets to basically name his buying price:confused:
I think it’s up to the dealer as there’s no such wording in my contract. Took delivery today
 

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Love the Mustang tattoo! Truck is nice too! 😆
ha ha lol that is a holdover from my youth 20 some years ago. The mustang was my first car. I remember turning to my dad and saying “daddy you’re going to buy me a Mustang as my first car.“ When I was like eight years old. It wasn’t the Mach I or Shelby cobra that I had dreamed of; but let’s face it, those are not exactly the every man’s attainable cars either lol

first car/stang was a 1980’s lx/fastback. (This was in 1995 for frame of reference)

Inevitably, my 16-year-old self later ended up wrecking that car. I got married young and my first husband entertained my love with the car by buying a then three year old 96 hunter green, can’t remember the proper color name now, GT. That car survived but the marriage did not🤣 I got the tattoo not long after that maybe at the age of 23 or 24.

Ironically, the lariat that my lightning replaced was going to be a forever truck and I was going to purchase the Shelby cobra finally or a boss or something of that nature once it was paid off. I had two years left to go and then the Lightning happened. Guess the stang been delayed again since I’m on the hook for this one for a few years 🤣🤣🤣
 

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Do you find the seats to be supportive enough? (i.e. lumbar, back, etc.)
I think the seats are excellent. I never complained about the seats in my lariat (you can see the truck in the background in some of the pics that I took while I was still at the dealership) but I definitely think the lightning is a step up in all directions in terms of interior comfort in the cabin. It also drives amazingly. And given that Big Gray was the best riding smoothest riding vehicle I’ve ever owned (and I’ve owned a lot of vehicles Including a Lexus and two BMWs) that’s really saying something.

I know time and time again all the reviewers comment on the same thing: You can’t believe how well it rides, how well it handles, and how damn quiet it really is. But I have to repeat the same thing and beat that dead horse. It really is amazing. When it is running you never realize how much ambient noise and vibration comes from an ICE. The lightning is so smooth and so enjoyable to sit in because there is none of that.

With the window down and just slightly cocking your ear towards the open window, you can actually hear the natural sound tires make on the pavement. You don’t normally pick that up because the sound of the engine drones it out. You can’t hear anything when you were rolling around in this vehicle. Even at highway speeds it’s significantly quieter than it’s ICE big sisters.

and yes, when you drop the hammer this baby is ready to go. It’s easy to chirp the tires in normal mode. I haven’t even bothered to put her in sport mode yet. I tripped the tires two or three times on various launches on delivery day and it didn’t even ding my range. I’m not gonna continue to do that because I’m pretty sure these tires ain’t cheap lol
 

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Congrats! Is it your first EV? Did you consider any other vehicles before going with the Lightning?
so yes beast is my first EV. She is my second F150.

I have wanted to go electric for many many years. My husband, when we were dating and very early in our relationship, had me watch a Netflix documentary called “who killed the Electric car?” I don’t know that it’s even still available as we’re talking the very early 2000s at the time. Netflix still sent out discs at that point 😅

I watched that and I was fascinated with the concept. It amazed me that GM made a pilot car, IIRC it was an electric looking Saturn, that everyone in the test pilot loved. I believe it was in California and they had the infrastructure even back then where there was no range anxiety. However, GM ended up not going forward with manufacturing the car and recalled all the vehicles. They actually just let them sit to rot for many years in a locked parking lot before finally demolishing them. The things that we love now about EV’s those test pilot participants were commenting on even back then.

So when EVs started to become more widespread I kept hoping to get into one. But until now, they just did not have the range that I needed in my daily commute.

We came very close to purchasing the Cadillac ELR which was their first electric Cadillac. it was a beautiful car with a beautiful ride. Problem? Range was less than 100 miles. I believe it was something like 90 miles. Which meant that I literally couldn’t even drive from my home to Boston on one charge.

And this was before my side of the state or even along the turnpike had a consistent amount of chargers. Back then, it was actually a bit of a novelty to even see a public EV charger in our area. So there was no way I could entertain buying an EV. My daily commute back then and even today is approximately 30 miles one way. So purchasing that car would’ve meant that I would have to charge literally every day. It just didn’t make sense.

I had no plans to ever trade in my lariat – it was supposed to be a keeper. But when the lightning was announced and I saw the range and we worked the numbers on the range it finally became feasible. Not only could I have a pick up truck; and a pick up truck that we could actually use as a truck when need be, but we also would have range where we could get to Logan, get to JFK; and now that there are more chargers along the highways, down to the auto train in Northern Virginia and not have to have any anxiety. We don’t drive a lot for trips but those are the most often trips that we do have to drive, if that makes sense.

I’m excited for this vehicle in many ways. Not only am I thrilled to finally be part of the EV community, I feel like this is a vehicle that will change everything for EV owners. I’m 43, so for my entire lifespan the F150 has been the most produced pick up, the best selling pick up, and not only that but the best selling and most produced vehicle in North America.

If the lightning does well it would be kind of like the field of dreams: “build it, and they will come”

The more EV’s out there, the more demand for public charging and better infrastructure. And the more infrastructure? The more EV owners will come.
 

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so yes beast is my first EV. She is my second F150.

I have wanted to go electric for many many years. My husband, when we were dating and very early in our relationship, had me watch a Netflix documentary called “who killed the Electric car?” I don’t know that it’s even still available as we’re talking the very early 2000s at the time. Netflix still sent out discs at that point 😅

I watched that and I was fascinated with the concept. It amazed me that GM made a pilot car, IIRC it was an electric looking Saturn, that everyone in the test pilot loved. I believe it was in California and they had the infrastructure even back then where there was no range anxiety. However, GM ended up not going forward with manufacturing the car and recalled all the vehicles. They actually just let them sit to rot for many years in a locked parking lot before finally demolishing them. The things that we love now about EV’s those test pilot participants were commenting on even back then.

So when EVs started to become more widespread I kept hoping to get into one. But until now, they just did not have the range that I needed in my daily commute.

We came very close to purchasing the Cadillac ELR which was their first electric Cadillac. it was a beautiful car with a beautiful ride. Problem? Range was less than 100 miles. I believe it was something like 90 miles. Which meant that I literally couldn’t even drive from my home to Boston on one charge.

And this was before my side of the state or even along the turnpike had a consistent amount of chargers. Back then, it was actually a bit of a novelty to even see a public EV charger in our area. So there was no way I could entertain buying an EV. My daily commute back then and even today is approximately 30 miles one way. So purchasing that car would’ve meant that I would have to charge literally every day. It just didn’t make sense.

I had no plans to ever trade in my lariat – it was supposed to be a keeper. But when the lightning was announced and I saw the range and we worked the numbers on the range it finally became feasible. Not only could I have a pick up truck; and a pick up truck that we could actually use as a truck when need be, but we also would have range where we could get to Logan, get to JFK; and now that there are more chargers along the highways, down to the auto train in Northern Virginia and not have to have any anxiety. We don’t drive a lot for trips but those are the most often trips that we do have to drive, if that makes sense.

I’m excited for this vehicle in many ways. Not only am I thrilled to finally be part of the EV community, I feel like this is a vehicle that will change everything for EV owners. I’m 43, so for my entire lifespan the F150 has been the most produced pick up, the best selling pick up, and not only that but the best selling and most produced vehicle in North America.

If the lightning does well it would be kind of like the field of dreams: “build it, and they will come”

The more EV’s out there, the more demand for public charging and better infrastructure. And the more infrastructure? The more EV owners will come.
Nice story of your transition to EVs. BTW, “Who Killed the Electric Car?” is available on Amazon Prime.
 
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ha ha lol that is a holdover from my youth 20 some years ago. The mustang was my first car. I remember turning to my dad and saying “daddy you’re going to buy me a Mustang as my first car.“ When I was like eight years old. It wasn’t the Mach I or Shelby cobra that I had dreamed of; but let’s face it, those are not exactly the every man’s attainable cars either lol

first car/stang was a 1980’s lx/fastback. (This was in 1995 for frame of reference)

Inevitably, my 16-year-old self later ended up wrecking that car. I got married young and my first husband entertained my love with the car by buying a then three year old 96 hunter green, can’t remember the proper color name now, GT. That car survived but the marriage did not🤣 I got the tattoo not long after that maybe at the age of 23 or 24.
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I'm going to be looking to get a special edition of the S650 when it is out. Either a Shelby or a Boss (assuming they do it).

Do you find the seats to be supportive enough? (i.e. lumbar, back, etc.)
It just felt good, wasn't in it long enough and it was off - so I couldn't adjust anything. Just sat in the front and back and I liked them. more comfortable than the Mach E? I little more give I would say than the Mach E. I've been in the Mach E for over and hour and been fine.
 

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OMG that was my car!!

Well, without all the state trooper badging obviously lol


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I'm going to be looking to get a special edition of the S650 when it is out. Either a Shelby or a Boss (assuming they do it).



It just felt good, wasn't in it long enough and it was off - so I couldn't adjust anything. Just sat in the front and back and I liked them. more comfortable than the Mach E? I little more give I would say than the Mach E. I've been in the Mach E for over and hour and been fine.
 
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