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So the good news is they’re selling at MSRP. But every time I ask where I am in their list they won’t say. I know Ford is holding a lot close to the chest but they seem clueless or dishonest.
They won’t say if they did any prioritizations nor will they tell me roughly where I am on the list or how many reservations they have. I just keep getting told the order email will come from Ford and they don’t know much else. Which I already know from lurking around this information treasure trove. Reserved on 5/21 around 4PM Eastern.
I wasn’t expecting the first few waves but it would be nice to know about where I sit.
 

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Looks like we have all been had, the Ford Lightning teem told me yesterday that I would be in wave 2 that opened yesterday due to early reservation, so I call my dealer the manager starts laughing he asked how many of these trucks do you think we will get to sell this year? Its a very large volume F150 dealer so I guess 100-200 units, he tells me 4, 4 trucks for the whole year??? How does this make sense these dealers have spent thousands on charger systems training ect. top only be able to sell 4 trucks? So you know the 4 trucks are going to dealer employees, so they can resell them at a huge markup, honestly if Ford put me in that spot not sure I would do it different, my dealer said they spent over 100k getting ready for this, so that's the TRUTH as I know it, That's why we see people with much higher reservation numbers saying they got the email, your reservation don't mean a thing
 

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Looks like we have all been had, the Ford Lightning teem told me yesterday that I would be in wave 2 that opened yesterday due to early reservation, so I call my dealer the manager starts laughing he asked how many of these trucks do you think we will get to sell this year? Its a very large volume F150 dealer so I guess 100-200 units, he tells me 4, 4 trucks for the whole year??? How does this make sense these dealers have spent thousands on charger systems training ect. top only be able to sell 4 trucks? So you know the 4 trucks are going to dealer employees, so they can resell them at a huge markup, honestly if Ford put me in that spot not sure I would do it different, my dealer said they spent over 100k getting ready for this, so that's the TRUTH as I know it, That's why we see people with much higher reservation numbers saying they got the email, your reservation don't mean a thing
It's been widely reported for months that Ford would only be able to produce about 15,000 Lightnings in 2022. Couple that with the fact that there are about 3,000 Ford dealers in America, and that's about the average number of Lightnings each dealership is probably going to get. Some of the mega dealers (e.g., Galpin Ford in LA) are going to get more, some of the smaller dealers will get less. But the idea that people have been duped just ignores the facts that have been widely reported for months.
 

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Very disappointed in Ford and my Selected dealer for not being honest and transparent. My reservation was during release and should have put me close to the first if as the dealer said they were not going to prioritize. With over 130 reservation holders I would have expected their allocation would have been 10 - 25 2022. They tell me one unit was allocated wave 1 and zero for wave 2. They say Ford has not shared allocation with Dealers per wave or 2022 and only told me I should be in the top 10. I have been a di-hard Ford fan but this situation has gotten me close to telling them to pound sand and eat it.
 

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It's been widely reported for months that Ford would only be able to produce about 15,000 Lightnings in 2022. Couple that with the fact that there are about 3,000 Ford dealers in America, and that's about the average number of Lightnings each dealership is probably going to get. Some of the mega dealers (e.g., Galpin Ford in LA) are going to get more, some of the smaller dealers will get less. But the idea that people have been duped just ignores the facts that have been widely reported for months.
Yup to Ford's credit it hasn't been a secret that this year will be slower as they ramp up to 2023 and beyond.
 

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Very disappointed in Ford and my Selected dealer for not being honest and transparent. My reservation was during release and should have put me close to the first if as the dealer said they were not going to prioritize. With over 130 reservation holders I would have expected their allocation would have been 10 - 25 2022. They tell me one unit was allocated wave 1 and zero for wave 2. They say Ford has not shared allocation with Dealers per wave or 2022 and only told me I should be in the top 10. I have been a di-hard Ford fan but this situation has gotten me close to telling them to pound sand and eat it.
To be fair, this situation has been evolving since the truck was announced last May. Ford has been very transparent with reservation counts, trims, options, pricing, expected production numbers, potential roadblocks, and the ordering process through media outlets and dealers. Each dealer is going to handle this in their own way and they have that right. Things could always be more transparent, but it's clear that many are learning about these things in about the same time we are. It's clear to see every reservation holder, especially those late to the game expect Ford to pump out dozens if not hundreds to dealers this year, which is just not possible. Most dealers will get close to a half dozen through this year at most. If your not artificially prioritized on the list or didn't reserve within the first hour your chances of receiving a truck this year are basically nill. And those who reserved after the first few weeks won't get one in 2023 either. That's just how much demand is above production capacity for the forseeable future. This is coming from someone who ordered within the first 30 minutes and still not able to order in the first two waves.
 

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Welcome to the forum @JC12345.
Are they at least willing to disclose how many allocations they have?
Which Lightning spec are you getting?
Nope totally sidestepped the question. I’m not mad with Ford - I get supply/demand and understood my relative place in line even getting into the game on day two. Current dealer is in NJ but I move this summer. I might try to find another no ADA dealer in IL and swap once I finally get a chance to order. Don’t really want to fly back to NJ to pickup a truck and drive it 13 hrs. Although it would give me a chance to get to know it.
Flip flopping between XLT standard battery and Lariat extended. Haven’t made up my mind on range yet, and XLT extended just doesn’t make sense.

You sit somewhere in 2023.
Thanks. I’m assuming that’s just a guess based on what we’ve all seen released regarding the pace of reservations and the estimated production timeline.
 

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Hello . My dealer doesn't say where I'm at too. He just told me to wait for the email from ford. I booked 15 hours after launch

So the good news is they’re selling at MSRP. But every time I ask where I am in their list they won’t say. I know Ford is holding a lot close to the chest but they seem clueless or dishonest.
They won’t say if they did any prioritizations nor will they tell me roughly where I am on the list or how many reservations they have. I just keep getting told the order email will come from Ford and they don’t know much else. Which I already know from lurking around this information treasure trove. Reserved on 5/21 around 4PM Eastern.
I wasn’t expecting the first few waves but it would be nice to know about where I sit.
 

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Hello . My dealer doesn't say where I'm at too. He just told me to wait for the email from ford. I booked 15 hours after launch
15 hours after launch puts you over 20,000 reservations behind the front per Ford's news releases.
 

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15 hours after launch puts you over 20,000 reservations behind the front per Ford's news releases.
Keep in mind that the distribution of 2022s isn’t going to be uniform because Ford is prioritizing the ZEV states, like California, Oregon, etc. So if you reserved later but live in one of those ZEV states, you might still get your number called before an earlier reservation in another state.
 

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Keep in mind that the distribution of 2022s isn’t going to be uniform because Ford is prioritizing the ZEV states, like California, Oregon, etc. So if you reserved later but live in one of those ZEV states, you might still get your number called before an earlier reservation in another state.
True. I was just posting about this elsewhere.

First of all, the numbers are nowhere close to sequential and don't matter. Timestamp is what matters. See Order # Question

Second, your dealer may have prioritized reservations. See Official Ford Ordering Documents

Third, it appears Ford is favoring Zero Emission Vehicle states. See Odds are against us
 

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I stop by at my dealership today. Looked up my place on their list without any hesitation. I am number 34 and they are getting 20 for 2022.very high volume dealer. Real bummer is I am very very early reservation on ford list but very far out on my dealer allocation. I wouldn't ditch my dealer over one car but same time I wouldn't hesitate dithc Ford who didn't think it through. It is only matter of year or two before you can go and shop cars like socks again. I got 3 less than year old evs in my stable to enjoy while Truck thing sorted out.
 

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So the good news is they’re selling at MSRP. But every time I ask where I am in their list they won’t say. I know Ford is holding a lot close to the chest but they seem clueless or dishonest.
They won’t say if they did any prioritizations nor will they tell me roughly where I am on the list or how many reservations they have. I just keep getting told the order email will come from Ford and they don’t know much else. Which I already know from lurking around this information treasure trove. Reserved on 5/21 around 4PM Eastern.
I wasn’t expecting the first few waves but it would be nice to know about where I sit.
Ditto. Ordered within the first hour on 5/19. Dealer claims they will sell at MSRP but can't/won't tell me anything else.
 

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Dealer finally gave me more info today. I'm "currently #22." They had 1 in the first wave and 10 in the second wave. I did ask if I was #22 overall, and 1-11 are already crossed off the list, or if I was actually #33, and now 22 of the remaining. Of the 11, only 2 have converted to orders so far. Said they expect wave #3 to be the last for MY22 (for what thats worth).

Also said if invites don't convert to orders I'd move up the list. I hadn't heard of it working that way. What is Ford doing if invites don't convert? If a dealer has 20 allocations but only 5 of the first 20 invites convert to orders, does that mean their next 15 get invites? I kind of thought Ford would redistribute however they wanted.

Lastly, I was shocked they've already had 11 invites through the first two waves. Seems to support the prioritizing EV-friendly states we've all been talking about.
 

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Keep in mind that all of the pre March 31 waves have until that date to convert. Seems Ford could only reassign invites originally sent to people who have canceled or deferred to 2023. How the master list is reshuffled I believe only Ford Corporate knows. Astonishing that 10 second wave invites went to your dealer.
 

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Keep in mind that all of the pre March 31 waves have until that date to convert. Seems Ford could only reassign invites originally sent to people who have canceled or deferred to 2023. How the master list is reshuffled I believe only Ford Corporate knows. Astonishing that 10 second wave invites went to your dealer.
Quite true but don't doddle once you receive the invitation to order. Ford has stated that once allocations are reached for certain trim/battery/option combinations, they will close orders on that combination. You will have to change your configuration or wait until next year.
 

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Quite true but don't doddle once you receive the invitation to order. Ford has stated that once allocations are reached for certain trim/battery/option combinations, they will close orders on that combination. You will have to change your configuration or wait until next year.
Can anyone tell me for certain that by now all Dealers know their allocations for 2022 to convert reservations to orders and why a dealer in the State if NH with supposedly over 125 reservation guests only got one allocated in wave one and zero in wave two? Reservation made within the hour during release and moved from a CT Dealer after discussion of huge added fees above MSRP even though they said I was likely #3 in line. My concern now is I am at the mercy of a Dealer with no previous relationship who has not offered how many they are allocated and where I officially stand. Not usually distrustful, but something does not seem right
 
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