Yes. I'd blame it on the MSRP cap coupled to the price increase when added to the loss of the $7500 for-(most)-everybody-who-bought-one tax credit.
Most likely the dealership is in good standing with Ford and received these as stock units.
Look at window stickers, I think green background indicates special order, blue would be stock. They typically also say special order.
Wow, where is that?!
So those rates only apply to the Lightning?
Which ones? The silverado? The one that is going to start well over 100k. They only recently switched to saying they are putting out the "work" truck sooner to follow what Ford did. (BTW, just like how they copied Mach E stuff on their Cadallic Lyriq and the Denali screen among other things) RAM isn't coming out for another 1.5 years. If you are talking about Tesla, say whatever you like, that isn't going to sell for under 100k. The CT is essentially a Model S with way more utility. It will not sell for less than the S. The tri-motor starts at 127k without selecting anything. You can't spend your entire post harping on cost and rates but then say competition is coming when all that competition is going to be just as expensive if not more. The denali? The only one I'd consider over the Lightning. That'll be just as expensive as the silverado, if not more. And please let me know if I'm missing something, I have been paying attention but maybe I did miss something. I didn't want to include vaporware but Tesla did order those gigantic machines to give the CT a quality no one will really need but are going to pay for.
OMG samesie!
What EV doesn't lose range in the cold? The 2 in your profile picture? one of which has constantly had its price increase and the other had the same dealer markup issues as they started to roll out. How much was/is FSD again? I keep forgetting. Oh yea, wasn't there some protest in China complaining about Tesla price increase?
I don't share your opinion on the future pricing of CT or other EV trucks. It is also my opinion that bespoke EV's are better than non bespoke EV's. The point I was trying to make in my post was the market for $75k+ trucks is shrinking due to weakening demand. Supply and demand will determine pricing, so speculating what prices are going to be is a moot point. Case in point: I purchased TM3 RWD in Sept 2022 for $42K OTD and Ioniq 5 in April 2022 for $46K OTD ( including $7500 tax credit). Timing is everything and being ready to buy when deals present themselves. Just recently Tesla was offering $7500 credit on the TM3 plus my state adds another $2250 rebate.
To be fair, the red YOY demand point is impressive but the supply chain woes of many of those product lines greatly influences 2022 data.
Have you seen those five on the lot? Lots of dealers are listing trucks as "for sale" when they are coming in on special order. Its a sleazy tactic meant to get buyers to come in where they can be convinced to buy something that is really in stock.
To be fair Tesla had the same supply chain challenges. They do have the benefit of using less parts in their vehicles, shared parts and being vertically integrated. Tesla can shift quickly to market conditions and demands. They were one of the first manufacturers to reprogram chips and to also remove chips. (Passenger lumbar and a redundant electronic control unit found in the steering racks).
Opinion or not, you can go to Tesla and see what a tri-motor Model S cost. The CT will come out first as a tri-motor. They might change the plan because Ford didn't come out with the most expensive first, but we'll see. I really don't care if you don't share my opinion on it. I wasn't saying anything far-fetched.
"To be fair" in one go you say they have the same supply chain challenges but then say they have less parts. So that means they don't have the same challenges. Tesla has fair less and does a lot in house, which is a benefit. I agree. However, there is a fair amount of push back on that minimalist look. GMC pushed back with putting in the same type of screen with the volumne wheel that Ford did but added flip switches (supply chain) at the bottom of it. Tesla now puts heated seats (and I believe cooled) when they initially said you don't need it.
