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Charging Lightning at public fast charger cost?

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BobinMich

Discussion Starter · Dec 15, 2021

I know KWH costs are different everywhere...but as I am looking, I see in Michigan costs to charge are roughly .45 per minute at public fast charging station....if it takes 90 minutes to "fill completely" from 0-100...that is approx 40.50 divided by 230 miles cost is .176 per mile....which means that it actually costs MORE to drive this Lightning than say, my 2019 F150 2.7 I get about 22 mpg with my truck, which means I can go 275 miles for 40.50 worth of gas (3.25 gal/87 oct) for a cost of .147 per mile....

Kinda shocked as when I had my 2012 ALL ELECTRIC ford focus, my electric bill went up "guesstimate" 15.00 per month, and I drove approx 800 miles per month, for a cost of .0187 per mile....they had an epa of 110 MPGe (equivalent) The EPA used stats of 32 kWh/100 miles, and they say 33.7 kWh is equivalent to 1 gallon of gas.

I know the charging stations will be considerably higher than at home charging...but the costs seem high for charging...will it come down with time?

Folks opinions on my simple minded figuring...?

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ChasingCoral

· #2 · Dec 16, 2021

Some DC Fast Charging companies price their chargers by the minute and some by the kWh. Some chargers are more expensive if you use the faster chargers than if you use slower chargers. Some states require all companies to price by the minute, others allow kWh pricing. Some companies like Electrify America have memberships that reduce the price by 25-30% for only a few dollars a month.

Having done calculations comparing the cost of charging my Mustang Mach E vs a comparable small SUV, I can tell you that fueling the Mach E on the road costs around 3/4 as much as gas. I expect a Lightning will do even better vs a gas F-150.

Remember, though: most of your charging will be at home at a cost that is 1/4-1/3 the cost of gas.

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ChasingCoral

· #3 · 9 mo ago

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ChasingCoral

· #5 · 9 mo ago

btreece said:
If you plan to use EA once per month then it is worth the $4 monthly fee for the discount. The break even point is between 33 and 34 kWh (for kWh charges). It looks like it would be even lower break even on per minutes charges. Also, with EA you can start and end the plan for just a single month, if that is all you need.

With the size of the Lightning battery, most charges at EA will be more than 34kWh. BTW, you can sign up, wait for your confirmation, then immediately cancel Pass +. Once you sign up it is good for 30 days. If you change your mind later and want to sign back up it is just as easy. To get the discount, you do have to use your app to initiate the charging process.

Ford should soon have the Blue Oval Charging Network with the same discount. It will cost $50 for a year and will enable Pass+ pricing while using Plug & Charge.

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ChasingCoral

· #9 · 1 mo ago

jlindsay157 said:
My last highway trip was a break-even experience. That is, my calculated cost was about equal to driving my gas powered Raptor. If my second vehicle was on ordinary F150, then a gas truck would have been cheaper than driving the Lightning. I averaged 1.5 m/kWhr and paid .48 per kWhr to charge at Electrify America stations. Rounding off to .5 that's 3m per dollar, or 12m for $4. With premium gas and 14 mpg highway, I pay basically the same in the Raptor.
So I've learned that the Lightning will only save us money with daily driving and charging at home for 12 cents / kWhr. That's a little disappointing. But maybe the highway cost of fast chargers will eventually come down in time.

The Lightning would have been significantly cheaper than gas if you had signed up for EA’s Pass + membership. It costs $4 per month and saves you 12¢ per kWh. It pays for itself once you reach 33kWh , which is a quarter of a charge.

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