[Autry024]

During the summer we stay on a campground and our unit has a 100 amp pedestal. The camper runs on a 50 amp NEMA, pedestal also has a 120v 30a Nema TT30R, and 120v 20a dual standard household outlet. The second and third outlets are currently available.
first Would I be able to access close to 30 A at 120 (less overall voltage than 220 but higher than standard outlet) or would it default to a certain number because it’s 120 and the charging system sees that and defaults to a certain charge.

What would be some creative ideas to charge this safely as I’m not allowed to change the wiring of the pedestal at the campground.
The truck would sit at the campground most of the day and most of the night but want to get more than a 110 charge out of it while there.
thank you.

 

[Voltz]

How long are you going to be there? How low will your truck battery be when you get there? What kind of electrical load does the camper pull?

 

[Autry024]

We come down every weekend in the summer sometimes during the week. I would be between 40 and 60% charge depending on traffic coming in
Like most campers, we aren’t on a fixed schedule.
If I could get 10-12 miles per hour on a charge I would have no traveling restrictions.
the central air is 15a ish, less than 10 amp for the other electrical stuff.

Can you adjust on the truck to pull less than the 30amp on the mobile charger ? If so That could work.

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

why not use the 50amp for the truck, and use the 30amp 120v for the camper? Seems like a better option because the truck won't need to be charging the WHOLE time, and when it's full you can then use the 50amp for the camper...

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

and, yes, I'm not sure how the Ford Mobile Charger is going to respond to a 30amp outlet, via an adapter, since it is still 120v power(meaning that it will only have a single 'hot' leg going to the charger)... I suspect that it will still be the same 'default' 120v power draw, which is likely about 12amps.
I think the only real option for 'more' power is to use the 50amp 240v outlet whenever possible, since a camper can use EITHER, with little difference. The larger motorhomes and fifthwheels might need more power if you are constantly using TWO roof air conditioners, but those can still run successfully off of a 30amp outlet if you are careful and don't do much else.

 

[Fishstyx]

During the summer we stay on a campground and our unit has a 100 amp pedestal. The camper runs on a 50 amp NEMA, pedestal also has a 120v 30a Nema TT30R, and 120v 20a dual standard household outlet. The second and third outlets are currently available.
first Would I be able to access close to 30 A at 120 (less overall voltage than 220 but higher than standard outlet) or would it default to a certain number because it’s 120 and the charging system sees that and defaults to a certain charge.

What would be some creative ideas to charge this safely as I’m not allowed to change the wiring of the pedestal at the campground.
The truck would sit at the campground most of the day and most of the night but want to get more than a 110 charge out of it while there.
thank you.

I’ve tested the travel charger and the bottom line is that if you use the 120v pigtail it’s not going to pull more than 10-12 amps good for about 2 miles range per hour. It doesn’t matter if the 120v receptacle is good for 30 amps. The 240v 14-50 pigtail is good for 32 amps or 7.2KW about 15 miles range per hour.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Another option is to plug the truck into the 50A and plug the camper into the truck. That’s my camping plan.

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

agreed, but since many campgrounds have BOTH the 50amp outlet AND the 30amp outlet, you don't need to use the truck... but, in situations where there might be only a 50amp outlet, yes, plugging the camper into the truck will work, with the flow of power thru the Truck, for charging, and out the bed outlet to the Camper. The camper can either use the 20amp outlet, or with an adapter, the 30amp 240v outlet.

 

[Autry024]

our camper is a park model and has 50a service inside and is prewired for the 14-50. It has two decks a three season and central air. It doesn’t “move “ per say It’s is very efficient energy wise but requires the 220v. I could unplug at night potentially if it’s not too hot.
That’s easy to do right at pedestal.
I am just racking my brain for some options. Thank you all

 

[ChasingCoral]

our camper is a park model and has 50a service inside and is prewired for the 14-50. It has two decks a three season and central air. It doesn’t “move “ per say It’s is very efficient energy wise but requires the 220v. I could unplug at night potentially if it’s not too hot.
That’s easy to do right at pedestal.
I am just racking my brain for some options. Thank you all

Do you really need the full 50A? If you’re only pulling 30A you can use an adapter to plug the park model into the truck.

 

[Voltz]

Do you really need the full 50A? If you’re only pulling 30A you can use an adapter to plug the park model into the truck.

To me, this sure looks like the answer. Breaking it down:

1. When you arrive, use the 240V/30A power in the truck through the Parkworld 691944 adapter to power the camper. (It may already be in the frunk. I would prefer a dogbone to not stress the truck receptacle.)
2. Use load management in the camper to make sure the truck can handle the load. Be aware that there could be an issue with GFCI tripping in the truck. There are people here waiting to get their trucks to figure out if it will be an issue.
3. Charge the truck when you get there from the campground 14-50 power.
4. When you get the state-of-charge you need to get back home with the truck (~6-10 hours), plug the camper back into the campground 14-50.
5. Use the 120V20A campground receptacle and the mobile EVSE to further charge and maintain the truck's battery.

Ignore the TT-30, it won't help, unless you have a separate input 120V circuit into your camper to share electrical loads with the heavy 240V air conditioner load.