[grumpy]

I wonder if Ford ever tested the Lightning for increased range with a modified frunk lid. Using the same lifting mechanism and latch and a more aero efficient shape could offer some storage while giving more range? Only wind tunnel testing would determine if a gain in range could be achieved.
Perhaps this could be a aftermarket frunk cover when more range is more important than maximum lockable storage.

Ha, well not exactly, but you get the idea.

 

[Leaf to Lightning : )]

maybe, but Ford's primary objective was to look like any other F150, not to look different. A Silverado might be in your future, if so.

 

[grumpy]

I think Ford's primary objective was to be first to the market, especially in front of Tesla. I think that is great, and it is a huge success. But I like function over needless fashion. That huge grill has no place when a $80k pickup truck comes with the equivalent of a 4 gallon tank. Sure, I am willing to pay for a $50k pickup with a 3 gallon tank, but that is more for the good of the climate and the need to do something, plus it will be a great 10kw generator when the power goes out, but lets get real! (Remember, each gallon of gas is equal to 33.7 kWh)

 

[Voltz]

That huge grill has no place when a $80k pickup truck comes with the equivalent of a 4 gallon tank.

Your numbers are correct, but they don't take into acccount the ~70% of gasoline that is lost to the environment as waste heat.

 

[Vandy1981]

Ford could have engineered an air splitter into the front grille like the Jaguar I-Pace or the upcoming Dodge Charger EV. This would have allowed for a lower drag coefficient while maintaining a more traditional look, albeit at the expense of frunk space.

 

[greatbreweh]

Love the frunk, not willing give that space up much at all, buy an er it has more than enough range for 99 percent of driving and the dc fast chargers are really no big deal to charge as after 3.5-4 hours driving I am ready for a 30 min coffee or lunch break anyways. Think lot people overthinking the range in my experience and i drive my truck a fair bit.

 

[grumpy]

Yup, the lockable frunk is a clever idea that I like too. It is clear they worked hard to make it as large as possible. I just wish we could squeeze more range out of the battery.... Or make the recharging quicker....

 

[jimfigler]

I think future trucks will need to look very different for aerodynamics and range enhancement. Nothing as radical as the cybertruck but changes will need to be made.

 

[grumpy]

Your numbers are correct, but they don't take into acccount the ~70% of gasoline that is lost to the environment as waste heat.

True on the "waste" heat, unless it is during winter driving when some of that "waste" heat is required inside the cabin.
Not only is the gasoline tank lighter, but it packs so much more energy than the current battery.

 

[R.I.P.]

Yup, the lockable frunk is a clever idea that I like too. It is clear they worked hard to make it as large as possible. I just wish we could squeeze more range out of the battery.... Or make the recharging quicker....

Gen2 should have 350kw charging. As good as it is, the current offering for all practical purposes is a cobbled together stop-gap until the purpose-built truck is ready.

Ford actually did such a good job with this project this fact is easy to forget.

 

[grumpy]

Gen2 should have 350kw charging. As good as it is, the current offering for all practical purposes is a cobbled together stop-gap until the purpose-built truck is ready.

I need help with this, can 800 volt cars can be charged at 350 kw?

Our 400 volt system is limited to 175 kw?? and that takes twice the time as a 350 kw system?

 

[R.I.P.]

I need help with this, can 800 volt cars can be charged at 350 kw?

Our 400 volt system is limited to 175 kw?? and that takes twice the time as a 350 kw system?

800v systems can be charged at 350kw, and GM is charging their 400v trucks at up to 350kw. GM and Hyundai are taking different approaches to charging 400v packs at higher rates, both are getting good reviews. GM is claiming up to 100 miles in 10 minutes @ 350kw.

I have no doubt that Ford is working on the method they want to use for the next generation of this truck.

 

[greatbreweh]

I think future trucks will need to look very different for aerodynamics and range enhancement. Nothing as radical as the cybertruck but changes will need to be made.

Or batteries and charging will continue to evolve and the aero will be no more important than it is to gas'ers for fuel economy.

 

[Simsonic]

Or batteries and charging will continue to evolve and the aero will be no more important than it is to gas'ers for fuel economy.

I will have this truck for 10 years. I specifically got the F150 because it looks good, not like some futuristic piece of weirdness. For 99% of my use case, the range works perfectly.