[webbo85]

Yes, I'm only running the charger at 48 Amps, should have been more clear on that.

 

[Henry Ford]

You are probably pushing the limit with that 6/3 for 48A continuous, did you or your electrician de-rate via dial in charger?

Agreed. I was thinking the same thing when I saw the photos above. Based on NEC Table 300.16 I think the right setting would be 32 amps. Romex 6/3 has an ampacity rating of 55 amps, multiply by 0.82 to account for ambient temperatures up to 40 C (104 F) which equals 45.1. Multiply that by 0.8 for the recommended safety buffer which give you 36.1. Any setting below that should be good, although I don't know how conduit affects that.

* The above calculation is based on my knowledge of code which is probably wrong. Don't take wiring advice from an internet forum.😆

 

[KElkhorn]

Agreed. I was thinking the same thing when I saw the photos above. Based on NEC Table 300.16 I think the right setting would be 32 amps. Romex 6/3 has an ampacity rating of 55 amps, multiply by 0.82 to account for ambient temperatures up to 40 C (104 F) which equals 45.1. Multiply that by 0.8 for the recommended safety buffer which give you 36.1. Any setting below that should be good, although I don't know how conduit affects that.

* The above calculation is based on my knowledge of code which is probably wrong. Don't take wiring advice from an internet forum.😆

I think you are doubling up, I think you could run at 40 just fine.

 

[Henry Ford]

I think you are doubling up, I think you could run at 40 just fine.

Yeah, you are right. 6 gauge wire on a 50 amp breaker with the charger set to 40 should be good.

I'm not sure how Romex in conduit affects the calculation. I suppose if the conduit is the right size there's no penalty, so speak?

 

[Jarratt]

Hey all!

I purchased 2022 Ford Lightning from Ford of Branford in Conneticut a month ago. I live in Minneapolis, but I wanted an ER Lariat under 80K (so I could get the tax credit) - these are tough to find so when I found one on their website, I took action.

Since I was going to be selling my old vehicle, I wanted to make sure I got the Ford Wallbox charger from SunRun ASAP. As I was finishing paperwork and wiring the money, I asked the dealer what we needed to do to get the charger sent. They said don’t worry, SunRun will call you. Frustrating, but no worries, I’ll be patient.

Fast forward a week - nothing from SunRun. I call again. The dealer gives me SunRuns number. Leave a message.

3 days later SunRun comes back and says this vehicle isn’t “marked as sold” - weird, it’s in my garage.

Call the dealer again - leave a message. Another 3 days go by. It’s now been two weeks, patience is getting thinner…

Dealer responds and says they need to talk to their rep and figure out why it isn’t marked as sold. Weird, seems pretty standard to me, but alright. (Meanwhile I’d had an electrician booked for 3 weeks after purchase - he charged me a cancellation fee).

Fast forward another week - I’m now being told the vehicle has recalls on it and it can’t be marked as sold until the recalls are taken care of. Again, a little frustrating but alright. Can a dealer even sell you a vehicle that has open recalls on it?

I call a local dealer. Earliest apt is April 4th - but the parts for the recall won’t be available until Q4 of 2023. I’ve tried to contact the dealer I purchased from - they aren’t willing to do anything about it. Very unresponsive and a poor experience.

Not to mention when the vehicle is finally marked as sold, SunRun then takes 3-5 business days to even recognize it and start the process (from what they told me).

Has anyone else had this bad of an experience trying to get the charger (that you paid for up front)? I’m using 110V to charge right now, I can get about a mile of range every 2 hours of charge. I can’t go anywhere 😂

Trying not to complain too much but man, this experience has stunk so far.

Talk me off this cliff!! 🤣

Sorry about your poor experience. It may take some time after you get a charger to get it installed. If you bought the ER, you should be getting the Pro charger which needs a lot of juice. Check to make sure your service can handle it. And make sure you have an experienced electrician do the install.

In the meantime, can you move fro 120 to 220? Can you unplug your dryer and get that circuit's juice to your truck? I'm using a 17Ah 220 circuit until I can get the Pro installed and getting about 7mi/hr. If you need a 220 extension cord, buy the most expensive one you can find. Cheap ones are terrible and can be dangerous.

 

[wade]

Hey all! I purchased 2022 Ford Lightning from Ford of Branford in Conneticut a month ago. I live in Minneapolis, but I wanted an ER Lariat under 80K (so I could get the tax credit) - these are tough to find so when I found one on their website, I took action. Since I was going to be selling my old vehicle, I wanted to make sure I got the Ford Wallbox charger from SunRun ASAP. As I was finishing paperwork and wiring the money, I asked the dealer what we needed to do to get the charger sent. They said don’t worry, SunRun will call you. Frustrating, but no worries, I’ll be patient. Fast forward a week - nothing from SunRun. I call again. The dealer gives me SunRuns number. Leave a message. 3 days later SunRun comes back and says this vehicle isn’t “marked as sold” - weird, it’s in my garage. Call the dealer again - leave a message. Another 3 days go by. It’s now been two weeks, patience is getting thinner… Dealer responds and says they need to talk to their rep and figure out why it isn’t marked as sold. Weird, seems pretty standard to me, but alright. (Meanwhile I’d had an electrician booked for 3 weeks after purchase - he charged me a cancellation fee). Fast forward another week - I’m now being told the vehicle has recalls on it and it can’t be marked as sold until the recalls are taken care of. Again, a little frustrating but alright. Can a dealer even sell you a vehicle that has open recalls on it? I call a local dealer. Earliest apt is April 4th - but the parts for the recall won’t be available until Q4 of 2023. I’ve tried to contact the dealer I purchased from - they aren’t willing to do anything about it. Very unresponsive and a poor experience. Not to mention when the vehicle is finally marked as sold, SunRun then takes 3-5 business days to even recognize it and start the process (from what they told me). Has anyone else had this bad of an experience trying to get the charger (that you paid for up front)? I’m using 110V to charge right now, I can get about a mile of range every 2 hours of charge. I can’t go anywhere 😂 Trying not to complain too much but man, this experience has stunk so far. Talk me off this cliff!! 🤣

Hey hang in there got mine early jan. Called Sunrun in nov dec to get ahead of game same Issues and all was ready until sold. Never heard of recall issue tho. All installed and love it. Sorry to hear. Used charge point near work for a while until installed but well worth wait.

 

[Nag_beer]

Hey all!

I purchased 2022 Ford Lightning from Ford of Branford in Conneticut a month ago. I live in Minneapolis, but I wanted an ER Lariat under 80K (so I could get the tax credit) - these are tough to find so when I found one on their website, I took action.

Since I was going to be selling my old vehicle, I wanted to make sure I got the Ford Wallbox charger from SunRun ASAP. As I was finishing paperwork and wiring the money, I asked the dealer what we needed to do to get the charger sent. They said don’t worry, SunRun will call you. Frustrating, but no worries, I’ll be patient.

Fast forward a week - nothing from SunRun. I call again. The dealer gives me SunRuns number. Leave a message.

3 days later SunRun comes back and says this vehicle isn’t “marked as sold” - weird, it’s in my garage.

Call the dealer again - leave a message. Another 3 days go by. It’s now been two weeks, patience is getting thinner…

Dealer responds and says they need to talk to their rep and figure out why it isn’t marked as sold. Weird, seems pretty standard to me, but alright. (Meanwhile I’d had an electrician booked for 3 weeks after purchase - he charged me a cancellation fee).

Fast forward another week - I’m now being told the vehicle has recalls on it and it can’t be marked as sold until the recalls are taken care of. Again, a little frustrating but alright. Can a dealer even sell you a vehicle that has open recalls on it?

I call a local dealer. Earliest apt is April 4th - but the parts for the recall won’t be available until Q4 of 2023. I’ve tried to contact the dealer I purchased from - they aren’t willing to do anything about it. Very unresponsive and a poor experience.

Not to mention when the vehicle is finally marked as sold, SunRun then takes 3-5 business days to even recognize it and start the process (from what they told me).

Has anyone else had this bad of an experience trying to get the charger (that you paid for up front)? I’m using 110V to charge right now, I can get about a mile of range every 2 hours of charge. I can’t go anywhere 😂

Trying not to complain too much but man, this experience has stunk so far.

Talk me off this cliff!! 🤣

Hi, I am in the same boat as you. I bought 2022 demo vehicle and dealer can’t mark it as sold because of wiper motor recall. I am not getting anywhere close to get this resolved. Spoke to dealer, ford and sunrun, and nobody can do anything. Dealer asked me to bring the car last week to check on recall. The tech checked out and said all good and he will submit the info to ford but seems like the service guys dragging their feet to submit any paper work. I am frustrated with this whole process as truck not marked as sold effecting updates, charger, and missing software upgrade options in sync settings.
I like the truck but dealing with dealers and sunrun seems to be a nightmare.ford should still be able to mark ot as sold but seems like there is no way they can do as it has to be done by dealer but dealer can’t doit until recall is addressed. Please let me know how I can resolve this issue.

 

[WWISE]

I could be wrong but I think a lot of folks are thinking that they need to use/install the 80 amp fast charger that is supposed to be delivered to the owner after purchase by Sunrun when perhaps they may not. At least that was the case with my 2022 Lariat ER. (2023 owners have to pay for the chargers?). It came immediately from the factory with the 32 amp "portable" charger. After a lot of research I decided that for my needs I could make do with the 32 amp portable charger. I had my electrician install a 50amp breaker & 14-50 Nema 240v outlet in my garage. I sold the 80amp Fast Charger on Ebay when it arrived from Sunrun which paid for most of my 240v install. I charge from 40% to 85% from 10pm to 6am (off-peak rates with my electric provider) with no problem. You can find the 32amp portable chargers on Ebay for a very reasonable price if one did not come with your truck. Just wanted to share my personal experience for what it is worth. Would welcome any feedback/opinions! Thanks, Walt

 

[Henry Ford]

I could be wrong but I think a lot of folks are thinking that they need to use/install the 80 amp fast charger that is supposed to be delivered to the owner after purchase by Sunrun when perhaps they may not. At least that was the case with my 2022 Lariat ER. (2023 owners have to pay for the chargers?). It came immediately from the factory with the 32 amp "portable" charger. After a lot of research I decided that for my needs I could make do with the 32 amp portable charger. I had my electrician install a 50amp breaker & 14-50 Nema 240v outlet in my garage. I sold the 80amp Fast Charger on Ebay when it arrived from Sunrun which paid for most of my 240v install. I charge from 40% to 85% from 10pm to 6am (off-peak rates with my electric provider) with no problem. You can find the 32amp portable chargers on Ebay for a very reasonable price if one did not come with your truck. Just wanted to share my personal experience for what it is worth. Would welcome any feedback/opinions! Thanks, Walt

Have you had any reliability issues with the portable charger? I've seen a few posts indicating the mobile charger can be unreliable, especially in the cold. The only other issue I see with this solution is the wall outlet as a potential fail point. State of Charge YouTube channel had a video with an electrician who said 14-50 outlets - specifically the cheap ones from home improvement stores - potentially wear out from plugging in and unplugging and create a fire hazard. Probably not an issue if it's plugged in all the time.

I have my FCSP set to 32 amps because my garage was previously wired with a 40 amp circuit and that was the easiest thing to do. I figured I could upgrade if I wanted faster charging but haven't had the need since I've owned the truck. I'm going to install a second charger at another location I frequent and will wire it so the full 80 amps is available, only because it's a short run, not because I think I'll need it.

 

[Zeus22]

I could be wrong but I think a lot of folks are thinking that they need to use/install the 80 amp fast charger that is supposed to be delivered to the owner after purchase by Sunrun when perhaps they may not. At least that was the case with my 2022 Lariat ER. (2023 owners have to pay for the chargers?). It came immediately from the factory with the 32 amp "portable" charger. After a lot of research I decided that for my needs I could make do with the 32 amp portable charger. I had my electrician install a 50amp breaker & 14-50 Nema 240v outlet in my garage. I sold the 80amp Fast Charger on Ebay when it arrived from Sunrun which paid for most of my 240v install. I charge from 40% to 85% from 10pm to 6am (off-peak rates with my electric provider) with no problem. You can find the 32amp portable chargers on Ebay for a very reasonable price if one did not come with your truck. Just wanted to share my personal experience for what it is worth. Would welcome any feedback/opinions! Thanks, Walt

Appreciate your input!

 

[Zeus22]

Just wanted to update everyone here - it sounds like the recall that was open on the truck was a safety recall. It was issued in early January, I purchased in early February.

The sale of a new vehicle with an open safety recall is illegal, with a fine up to $20,000.

I'm not going to take legal action, but is it reasonable to ask the dealer for some sort of compensation? I still don't have the wallbox charger and it's been almost 2 months.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Just wanted to update everyone here - it sounds like the recall that was open on the truck was a safety recall. It was issued in early January, I purchased in early February.

The sale of a new vehicle with an open safety recall is illegal, with a fine up to $20,000.

I'm not going to take legal action, but is it reasonable to ask the dealer for some sort of compensation? I still don't have the wallbox charger and it's been almost 2 months.

The recall applied to 18 trucks. Was yours one of those 18?

 

[NoDak]

The recall applied to 18 trucks. Was yours one of those 18?

The fire recall applied to 18 trucks. There are other recalls, including the wiper motor recall mentioned.

Just wanted to update everyone here - it sounds like the recall that was open on the truck was a safety recall. It was issued in early January, I purchased in early February.

The sale of a new vehicle with an open safety recall is illegal, with a fine up to $20,000.

I'm not going to take legal action, but is it reasonable to ask the dealer for some sort of compensation? I still don't have the wallbox charger and it's been almost 2 months.

That fine is designed to protect you as a consumer. I’d keep quiet or they may take the truck back. 😬

 

[ChasingCoral]

The fire recall applied to 18 trucks. There are other recalls, including the wiper motor recall mentioned.

Again, was did the recall apply to that particular truck? That recall, like almost all recalls, only applied to particular VINs.