[R.I.P.]

At $350, the 48a Tesla EVSE is hard to beat.

Electrek: Tesla drops the price on its already cheap home charging station.

Tesla drops the price on its already cheap home charging station

Tesla drops the price on its already cheap home charging station for electric vehicles as it tries to make its connector the new standard.

electrek.co

 

[Joseywales]

Also, check your local incentives for wall charger installations. Made mine free essentially.

Utilizing tesla tap mini adapter and has worked flawlessly.

 

[ChasingCoral]

It's a very well made unit and $550 for the J-1772 isn't a bad price.

 

[R.I.P.]

It's a very well made unit and $550 for the J-1772 isn't a bad price.

$350 for the NACS version leaves you $200 toward your TeslaTap, which any CCS rig should have onboard anyway. 🙂

 

[ChasingCoral]

$350 for the NACS version leaves you $200 toward your TeslaTap, which any CCS rig should have onboard anyway. 🙂

True, you can get it with the Tesla connector for $200 less. Personally, I prefer less parts through which I run that sort of sustained amperage. I'd pay $550 and buy a Tesla Tap for those occasional times I need it.

 

[soulsle]

i've been going back and forth on the Tesla J1772 vs installing a nema 14-50 for FMC. Could i do both and use Tesla on a regular basis and outlet in case of issues with TC.

 

[R.I.P.]

FMC? You can always put in your 1450 outlet, tune your Tesla wall charger down to 40 amps and put a 14-50 end on the input cable. This is a very common installation, allows you to take the wall charger with you if you ever want to, and allows you to use the 1450 outlet for other things if you want to (like an RV). The 40 amps you are left with is a very robust charging system that is more than enough for most people needs. In addition, it is slightly under what the evse is rated, which is never a bad idea in the long run.

 

[soulsle]

Sorry, Ford Mobile Charge (FMC). That's a great idea, will just have the 14-50 put in. Appreciate your response.

 

[R.I.P.]

Yeah, if you have a "FMC", smart money it just stays in your vehicle nice and tidy for if you ever need it out on the road. The constant plug and unplug wind up and uncoil etc when you get home gets old, and you should certainly have it with you when you are out. That is kind of the purpose.

If you don't have one, for God's sake don't buy one. Opt for the TMC instead (Tesla Mobile Charger), as it is far more feature Rich, packs more power, and is half the price.

 

[Flash]

but where do you find a tesla to CCS converter?

 

[R.I.P.]

but where do you find a tesla to CCS converter?

Tesla has not opened up supercharging to other manufacturers yet, but all of the destination chargers are out there and free (if you have a TeslaTap). Supercharger to CCS will be done by Tesla.

 

[soulsle]

Yeah, if you have a "FMC", smart money it just stays in your vehicle nice and tidy for if you ever need it out on the road. The constant plug and unplug wind up and uncoil etc when you get home gets old, and you should certainly have it with you when you are out. That is kind of the purpose.

If you don't have one, for God's sake don't buy one. Opt for the TMC instead (Tesla Mobile Charger), as it is far more feature Rich, packs more power, and is half the price.

That makes sense, I'm sold on Tesla charger, could TMC (Tesla Mobile Charger) be used on a daily charging purpose or should i be using Tesla J1772 Wall Connector (TWC) for everyday use, looking at its spec doesn't seem to be coming with nema 14-50 adapter, although not a expensive add-on, just making sure it can be plugged in.

 

[R.I.P.]

That makes sense, I'm sold on Tesla charger, could TMC (Tesla Mobile Charger) be used on a daily charging purpose or should i be using Tesla J1772 Wall Connector (TWC) for everyday use, looking at its spec doesn't seem to be coming with nema 14-50 adapter, although not a expensive add-on, just making sure it can be plugged in.

Either can be used for daily charging, but the Wall charger is more powerful. You can add a 14-50 end to the wall charger if you set it to 40a.

I keep the mobile cord stowed in the vehicle with the NEMA kit

 

[atguru]

I have a Ford Connected Station, still in the box, haven't had it installed yet. How does it compare to Tesla charger?

 

[R.I.P.]

I have a Ford Connected Station, still in the box, haven't had it installed yet. How does it compare to Tesla charger?

The Ford branded chargers have been notoriously problematic, and lack important features of better EVSEs, such as temperature safety sensors and amperage fall-back capabilities. Some work for a long time with no problems, others do not. If you have one, I would use it, I just always recommend those that are shopping to not actually spend money on one.

The Tesla units have better tech then anything else on the market right now, and because of their sheer volume, they sell them for less. Some take issue with the red "T" on them, but that can be fixed with a bored ape sticker.
😏

 

[atguru]

Thanks @R.I.P. ! I got tired of getting beaten up by the electricians' quotes that were outrageous to hardware install of the FCS. I sent it back to Ford to get a refund. I'm now looking seriously at the Tesla charger and a few others. I want to get a charger that will plugin to 14-50. Now I'm on the hunt for an electrician to install the 14-50, but I know that'll be a lot less than hardwiring.

 

[mcrichardson]

When looking at Tesla wall chargers they indicate "hardwired". Is this a must or can you hook via plug in ?

 

[R.I.P.]

When looking at Tesla wall chargers they indicate "hardwired". Is this a must or can you hook via plug in ?

You can dial them down to 40a and put a 14-50 end on the feed line. This is a popular option.

Remember to tell the electrician you want a 14-50 "RV outlet", not mentioning that it is for an EVSE. You will pay three times more if you mentioned "EVSE" or "electric car", And you will get exactly the same thing.

 

[ChasingCoral]

For those of you who have not started working with your electrician, I encourage you to watch this video.

 

[R.I.P.]

For those of you who have not started working with your electrician, I encourage you to watch this video.

Ok, I have watched this vid a couple of times now, and I am glad it is out there. It has good information and makes great points, but it also has some shaky information in it. It is best watched keeping in mind that Q-merit is trying to sell you something.

Claim: "Q-merit will do a better job than a different electrician."
False. I have seen them makes mistakes too. They are a quality installer, but they are not the only quality installer.

Claim: "The 14-50 outlet was not made to be plugged/unplugged on a regular basis."
False. The 14-50 standard was created for RV parks, literally plugging and unplugging RVs on a daily basis. That said, RVs do not put the strain on an outlet that an EVSE does, so I do not recommend plugging/unplugging your EVSE every day from the outlet. Have a wall unit, keep your mobile EVSE tucked away in your vehicle until it is needed and let the J1772 connection take the brunt of the daily wear. It was designed for it.

Should you use a quality plug in your home? Yes.

Should you be afraid to plug your mobile EVSE into the campground 14-50 outlet that has seen thousands of uses over the years? No, but look at it to make sure it looks ok. Then put your hand on the EVSE portion of the plug after 15 minutes to see if it is getting too hot. Not a bad idea to check it again in an hour, if you are around. OR, use a Tesla mobile EVSE that has thermal sensors in the head of the plug, and will automatically back down the draw if it gets hot. Yes, another example of Tesla showing the way, how things should be done.

Some of the vids and case studies out there give you some information behind the melted gear that is sitting on the table. They do not do that in this video. Is that outlet a result of plugging an EVSE into it and not de-rating it to <40 amps (the most common case)? I would say highly likely, making the argument that "this is what happens when you have somebody else install your equipment" rather deceptive.

Disclaimer:
Q-merit is a direct competitor of ours, so what applies to them applies to us. Do your due diligence.