Driving habits??? I drive 75 on the interstate. A 90k truck should not have these type issues. Not sure if you reading other post, but I'm not the only on having these ongoing issues...
2023 battery issue
2023 Platinum. 1600 miles. Had to tow to dealership. Won’t move. Not sure they have answers. Battery failure?
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What are your average mi/kWh?Driving habits??? I drive 75 on the interstate. A 90k truck should not have these type issues. Not sure if you reading other post, but I'm not the only on having these ongoing issues...
Why?What are your average mi/kWh?
The range numbers really don't mean much without that. We can debate good or bad driving habits all day, but actual mi/kWh doesn't lie.
An ER battery has 131 kWh to use. To get 320 miles of range with that, you need to be in the 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh area.
To get 190 miles, you only need to be at 1.4-1.5 mi/kWh.
I have found that driving 80-85 on the interstate I typically do 1.6-1.8 in summer on relatively flat roads, this goes down as temps drop.
I have also found that driving 70-75 on 2-lane highways I get around 2-2.1 mi/kWh.
This really isn't any different than any of the ICE trucks I have owned, other than city and highway are reversed because of the reduced drag at low speeds and ability to recharge when braking. There is a MPG number on the sticker on my ICE trucks that I rarely see in practice.
An ER battery has 131 kWh to use. To get 320 miles of range with that, you need to be in the 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh area.
To get 190 miles, you only need to be at 1.4-1.5 mi/kWh.
I have found that driving 80-85 on the interstate I typically do 1.6-1.8 in summer on relatively flat roads, this goes down as temps drop.
I have also found that driving 70-75 on 2-lane highways I get around 2-2.1 mi/kWh.
This really isn't any different than any of the ICE trucks I have owned, other than city and highway are reversed because of the reduced drag at low speeds and ability to recharge when braking. There is a MPG number on the sticker on my ICE trucks that I rarely see in practice.
My truck averages 1.5/1.6. I don't drive 80\85 and I live in Tennessee with relatively mild climates. Again, one of the reasons I bought the extended batteries was for the 300+ milage Ford is pushing. No I read they are going to offer a different battery possibly in 2024. Ford needs to come clean on the real facts....... I will see my truck ASAP.The range numbers really don't mean much without that. We can debate good or bad driving habits all day, but actual mi/kWh doesn't lie.
An ER battery has 131 kWh to use. To get 320 miles of range with that, you need to be in the 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh area.
To get 190 miles, you only need to be at 1.4-1.5 mi/kWh.
I have found that driving 80-85 on the interstate I typically do 1.6-1.8 in summer on relatively flat roads, this goes down as temps drop.
I have also found that driving 70-75 on 2-lane highways I get around 2-2.1 mi/kWh.
This really isn't any different than any of the ICE trucks I have owned, other than city and highway are reversed because of the reduced drag at low speeds and ability to recharge when braking. There is a MPG number on the sticker on my ICE trucks that I rarely see in practice.
What did you drive before this truck? Did you get sticker MPG on the highway with it?My truck averages 1.5/1.6. I don't drive 80\85 and I live in Tennessee with relatively mild climates. Again, one of the reasons I bought the extended batteries was for the 300+ milage Ford is pushing. No I read they are going to offer a different battery possibly in 2024. Ford needs to come clean on the real facts....... I will see my truck ASAP.
I drove a Ford and yes it was pretty close. Do you work for Ford????What did you drive before this truck? Did you get sticker MPG on the highway with it?
What did you drive before this truck? Did you get sticker MPG on the highway with it?
And it certainly was not a difference of 30%...What did you drive before this truck? Did you get sticker MPG on the highway with it?
I don't work for Ford. But your mi/kWh don't seem to match mine or others that have reported similarly on these threads, just trying to figure out where the discrepancy may be. I have always been a few MPG lower than sticker, the last 1/2 ton truck I had was a 2013 ecoboost that was rated at 15 city/21 highway/17 combined, and I think I was typically around 15 mpg average, with a roughly 2:1 highway:city mile ratio. I have always just chalked that up to the fact that I'm at 5000 feet and not sea level, there are very few flat roads in Montana, and I do typically drive 80-85 on the interstate (our speed limit is 80).And it certainly was not a difference of 30%...
Imagine if you had purchased an SR? Your 1.5mi/Kwh would be getting you a usable range of around 117 miles. How do we get there? 98kwh*1.5Kwh/mi=147 miles. The next figure will vary by driver, but I know I do not like getting much under 30 miles of range before I fill-up, which gives me 117 miles between fill-ups if I start out with 100% charge. If I am fast charging and moving on, knock another 30 miles off of that figure. Yeah, I am l now under 90 miles between charges unless I get lucky and can find one to cruise into on empty (not really fun in my book).My truck averages 1.5/1.6. I don't drive 80\85 and I live in Tennessee with relatively mild climates. Again, one of the reasons I bought the extended batteries was for the 300+ milage Ford is pushing. No I read they are going to offer a different battery possibly in 2024. Ford needs to come clean on the real facts....... I will see my truck ASAP.
I am not disparaging, I am an early adopter, a long time EVr and am extremely unhappy anytime I have to drive a gasser. I am an admitted EV "evangelist", and as such I want people to have a good experience. It is true that an SR equipped Lightning will suffice and evan be a good option for a small percentage of people that are actually looking for a "truck". Most of this small group of people could be described as "enthusiasts (like me). If we, as enthusiasts over-sell the capabilities of this tech, we end up with people like you who are unhappy with what they end up with in the real world.
On the other hand, there will be a ton of SR equipped machines available used later this year as they get traded in. Great for enthusiasts, because history tells us the prices will be good on these machines.
Just meant as an analogy....
Until recently I was driving a Titan XD 5L Diesel. Stated mileage: 15 City, 21 hwy.
Actual: on a good day I'd get 14mpg ON THE HIGHWAY.
Now, I grant you this... I was not gentle with the accelerator, I would weave between traffic when slowbugs were doing their civic duty by staying in the passing lane at the exact speed limit, etc. Oh, and I WAS typically doing 80-85. So my "Rated" hwy mileage of 21 was not even a fantasy. I DID get 21 mpg ONCE when I stayed on cruise control at 65 for a 150 mile trip.
To summarize - if you can objectively state that you are driving with efficiency in mind, and you're getting 190/charge, yes, you probably have a problem. But you will need to document the living heck out of it to get ANY manufacturer to look into this issue.
Good luck, and keep us posted!
Until recently I was driving a Titan XD 5L Diesel. Stated mileage: 15 City, 21 hwy.
Actual: on a good day I'd get 14mpg ON THE HIGHWAY.
Now, I grant you this... I was not gentle with the accelerator, I would weave between traffic when slowbugs were doing their civic duty by staying in the passing lane at the exact speed limit, etc. Oh, and I WAS typically doing 80-85. So my "Rated" hwy mileage of 21 was not even a fantasy. I DID get 21 mpg ONCE when I stayed on cruise control at 65 for a 150 mile trip.
To summarize - if you can objectively state that you are driving with efficiency in mind, and you're getting 190/charge, yes, you probably have a problem. But you will need to document the living heck out of it to get ANY manufacturer to look into this issue.
Good luck, and keep us posted!
"Cold" function of the vehicle may have been invoked in error. I mentioned your dilemma to a Ford service manager and in error the "Cold" status can invoke and lock up all functions. He said it is a setting to be used when the vehicle is put into long term storage. Guess the reset on it is not an easy task apparently. I have a '23 so am a bit wary - is it in known recall status for an upgrade?2023 Platinum. 1600 miles. Had to tow to dealership. Won’t move. Not sure they have answers. Battery failure?
I have had my truck since the end of July. With approx 4,500 miles, my average electric usage to date is 2.7 miles per kilowatt hour. That said, with the cold weather, it has been closer to 2.0 - 2.4 mi/kWh.The range numbers really don't mean much without that. We can debate good or bad driving habits all day, but actual mi/kWh doesn't lie.
An ER battery has 131 kWh to use. To get 320 miles of range with that, you need to be in the 2.4-2.5 mi/kWh area.
To get 190 miles, you only need to be at 1.4-1.5 mi/kWh.
I have found that driving 80-85 on the interstate I typically do 1.6-1.8 in summer on relatively flat roads, this goes down as temps drop.
I have also found that driving 70-75 on 2-lane highways I get around 2-2.1 mi/kWh.
This really isn't any different than any of the ICE trucks I have owned, other than city and highway are reversed because of the reduced drag at low speeds and ability to recharge when braking. There is a MPG number on the sticker on my ICE trucks that I rarely see in practice.
As far as driving style, I use one pedal driving and do not drive it like I stole it in town or on the highway. Additionally, I use my heated steering wheel and heated seats (and have actually started doing that in my Volvo as well) and find it more comfortable than waiting for radiant heat.
Truck still in shop. Been there since 12/23
I had my Lightning since September and I have NEVER seen 300 miles range. I have driven it over 7000 miles and usually 65-70 mph and then the battery died. That was 49 days ago and I was told today that it will be an additional 2 weeks.I don’t know why you would only be getting 190 miles on a full charge but it must be something to do with your vehicle or your driving habits or a combination of both. I routinely get at least 330 miles on a full charge, but I am a rather efficient driver unless I’m being playful or heavy footed.
You need to also understand that unlike ICE vehicles, EV vehicles are less efficient the higher speeds they go. They also did not get their full range as temperatures drop below 40 and again bel20. That’s going to be true of any electronic vehicle not just the lighting.
That doesn’t mean that you have to do 60 miles an hour but you have to understand that’s not where the vehicle is going to be at its most efficient. Additionally, I’ve not found that running the heat has made any difference on the mileage. Nor did using the AC.
I think your problem sounds like an outlier. I would evaluate your driving habits and look there as first line of troubleshooting.
There is a battery problem out there and many of us are victims
Just got my 2023 lightning Lariat: Sorry to say this but I'm only getting about 160 miles on a full charge. I paid for 260 mile battery but since we can only charge to 90% I'm left with 230 miles. Out of the 230 miles I only get about 160 miles I don't think I'm doing anything wrong other than driving and listening to the radio. I try not to use the heater or AC and I'm still only getting limited miles.
Which version was rated at 260 miles?Just got my 2023 lightning Lariat: Sorry to say this but I'm only getting about 160 miles on a full charge. I paid for 260 mile battery but since we can only charge to 90% I'm left with 230 miles. Out of the 230 miles I only get about 160 miles I don't think I'm doing anything wrong other than driving and listening to the radio. I try not to use the heater or AC and I'm still only getting limited miles.
Well, we actually paid for a 131kwh battery, which the EPA rated for 320 miles in some set of conditions that aren't what people really drive. ;-)Just got my 2023 lightning Lariat: Sorry to say this but I'm only getting about 160 miles on a full charge. I paid for 260 mile battery but since we can only charge to 90% I'm left with 230 miles. Out of the 230 miles I only get about 160 miles I don't think I'm doing anything wrong other than driving and listening to the radio. I try not to use the heater or AC and I'm still only getting limited miles.
In California nice weather not too cold if I charge to 90% it shows me 230 miles. Out of those 230 miles I only get around 140 actual driving miles the rest of the energy goes to power other features like the radio, lights and outside temperature whatever that means. This is real I own it and I drive it everyday. :-(
What’s your mile per kilowatt hr average? How fast/slow do you drive? Lots of highway or more local?In California nice weather not too cold if I charge to 90% it shows me 230 miles. Out of those 230 miles I only get around 140 actual driving miles the rest of the energy goes to power other features like the radio, lights and outside temperature whatever that means. This is real I own it and I drive it everyday. :-(
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