[dmcckeige]

Folks, when i took delivery in September 2022, this truck which was supposed to have a 320 mile range, would never show a range greater than 240/250 miles even when 100% charged.

The software update came through and i installed it a week or so ago and now at 100% charge it shows a range of 340 miles?

Has anyone had a similar experience? Any experience to see if this new much higher number actually is accurate in real life?

 

[KElkhorn]

They implemented this update to get people to quit complaining that they never saw a range greater than 240/250 miles even when 100% charged.
Did not change actual battery capacity, efficiency when driving, or anything else, just took an already rough number and made it less accurate to quiet the masses.

 

[rawhide]

My 2022 Platinum showed about a 20% increase in range since the software updated about a week ago. I can confirm that indeed it did extend the range. They must have done something in the back ground to access more of the battery.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Yes, this was posted a couple of months ago and there are threads about it here. It was part of the enhancement to the Guess-O-Meter, officially called the DTE (Distance to Empty) indicator. This is not the way to test your actual range as it is a black-box calculation that doesn't know where you are going or how fast.

You might want to start here:

Don't trust the GOM! Best ways to calculate how far...

In EV forums there are always lots of new threads popping up from first time BEV drivers who are all worried or worked up because their Guess-O-Meter (GOM) is showing much less range than they think it should. This will especially happen in colder weather when the range drops. For new EV owners...

www.lightningowners.com

then read up on PowerUp 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE

 

[jimfigler]

Folks, when i took delivery in September 2022, this truck which was supposed to have a 320 mile range, would never show a range greater than 240/250 miles even when 100% charged.

The software update came through and i installed it a week or so ago and now at 100% charge it shows a range of 340 miles?

Has anyone had a similar experience? Any experience to see if this new much higher number actually is accurate in real life?

It didnt change your actually range it just gives the number you want to see.

 

[rawhide]

Yes, this was posted a couple of months ago and there are threads about it here. It was part of the enhancement to the Guess-O-Meter, officially called the DTE (Distance to Empty) indicator. This is not the way to test your actual range as it is a black-box calculation that doesn't know where you are going or how fast.

You might want to start here:

Don't trust the GOM! Best ways to calculate how far...

In EV forums there are always lots of new threads popping up from first time BEV drivers who are all worried or worked up because their Guess-O-Meter (GOM) is showing much less range than they think it should. This will especially happen in colder weather when the range drops. For new EV owners...

www.lightningowners.com

then read up on PowerUp 22-PU1009-MIL-DTE

It didnt change your actually range it just gives the number you want to see.

It did change the range, I have confirmed that.

 

[KElkhorn]

It did change the range, I have confirmed that.

Please expand on how you have confirmed, we are all ears.

 

[jimfigler]

It did change the range, I have confirmed that.

All the update did was change the way the range was calculated and displayed.

 

[rawhide]

Please expand on how you have confirmed, we are all ears.

I frequently drive from Vancouver BC to Whistler BC, usually once/week. Total distance is approx 250km (we are Canadian after all!). The drive is always in the winter, average outdoor temps are -5C to 0C. Since the update (about 2 weeks ago as it would not properly update the last time I tried about 2 months ago) I am seeing way more distance to empty than before the update. About 20% more.
I was suspicious when I noticed the DTE figure at 100% charge increase from approx 350km to 450km since the update. I suspected that DTE figure would go down quicker than before but that has not been the case.
Not scientific by any means but a noticeable difference. I think that Ford has allowed more access to the battery. They were uber conservative when they produced the truck (after all they have to guarantee the battery for 8 years) and they have realized that they can allow a more aggressive strategy.
Just my 2 bits!

 

[jimfigler]

I frequently drive from Vancouver BC to Whistler BC, usually once/week. Total distance is approx 250km (we are Canadian after all!). The drive is always in the winter, average outdoor temps are -5C to 0C. Since the update (about 2 weeks ago as it would not properly update the last time I tried about 2 months ago) I am seeing way more distance to empty than before the update. About 20% more.
I was suspicious when I noticed the DTE figure at 100% charge increase from approx 350km to 450km since the update. I suspected that DTE figure would go down quicker than before but that has not been the case.
Not scientific by any means but a noticeable difference. I think that Ford has allowed more access to the battery. They were uber conservative when they produced the truck (after all they have to guarantee the battery for 8 years) and they have realized that they can allow a more aggressive strategy.
Just my 2 bits!

Don’t pay attention to the DTE number. Pay attention to the remaining %. If by some chance under the same conditions your remaining % was 45% previously and now it’s 55% then your range increased

 

[rawhide]

Don’t pay attention to the DTE number. Pay attention to the remaining %. If by some chance under the same conditions your remaining % was 45% previously and now it’s 55% then your range increased

Wouldn't the 2 go hand in hand?

 

[KElkhorn]

Wouldn't the 2 go hand in hand?

No, that's the point of what most of us are saying. New DTE is artificially high. Capacity and km/kWh haven't changed.

 

[Voltz]

I am seeing way more distance to empty than before the update

Seeing is the key word. Until you 'see' your actual energy consumption efficiency, expressed in km/kWh, go up, DTE range guesses are little more than a software-influenced mind game. The Wizard of Oz would be proud of the DTE 'adjustment' Ford made.

 

[chillaban]

Wouldn't the 2 go hand in hand?

They don’t because the new update basically makes the DTE meter more optimistic and unrealistic than before.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I frequently drive from Vancouver BC to Whistler BC, usually once/week. Total distance is approx 250km (we are Canadian after all!). The drive is always in the winter, average outdoor temps are -5C to 0C. Since the update (about 2 weeks ago as it would not properly update the last time I tried about 2 months ago) I am seeing way more distance to empty than before the update. About 20% more.
I was suspicious when I noticed the DTE figure at 100% charge increase from approx 350km to 450km since the update. I suspected that DTE figure would go down quicker than before but that has not been the case.
Not scientific by any means but a noticeable difference. I think that Ford has allowed more access to the battery. They were uber conservative when they produced the truck (after all they have to guarantee the battery for 8 years) and they have realized that they can allow a more aggressive strategy.
Just my 2 bits!

There is no indication from sources inside Ford that the amount of battery accessible has changed. It is only the DTE calculation. If you really want to test the amount of battery accessed you need to do full range tests.

see:

Don't trust the GOM! Best ways to calculate how far...

In EV forums there are always lots of new threads popping up from first time BEV drivers who are all worried or worked up because their Guess-O-Meter (GOM) is showing much less range than they think it should. This will especially happen in colder weather when the range drops. For new EV owners...

www.lightningowners.com

 

[ChasingCoral]

Wouldn't the 2 go hand in hand?

no